you led wall mount light looks impressive. it would be perfect if they are compatible to motion sensing and solar power units
I’m guessing that any solar (battery driven) unit which could maintain 150 watts would work. As for motion capability I’m guessing again that I will be able to study any common wiring setup of at least the same wattage and swap out any detector to adapt. A lot of guessing…yet my main concern is finding someone who can explain the dimming system to me (above) so that I can incorporate a dusk to dawn accessory as well.
My ‘unicorn’ seems to be a plug and play, long range (preferably) motion detector with dusk to dawn sensor and compatible dimmer which doesn’t seem to be possible given the feedback here to date.
I’m a little surprised that more aren’t in to high lumen/low Kelvin lights of this size as they are the tiny ones costing much more. 
Check out this recent thread. There seems to be some posters that know what they are talking about.
LED Panel Dimming help please
Thank you so much my friend. After struggling with MegaDepot to (finally) get this light ordered today, your help will (finally again) allow me to finish this project less the long range motion detector.
RAB used to make (stupidly expensive) detectors which I swore by until every single one of them eventually failed/took out the (500 watt halogen) lights with them. I’ve never ran in to anybody else who used these and hate to throw them away lest they be fixable (100 foot range believe it or not). 
Morris has obsoleted a number of their lights of late and has moved on to mounting configurations requiring a second accessory mount to be purchased. The good new is that they are apparently trying to improve what are some very low Nema beam angle numbers in their area lighting line.
Whether this will translate in to significantly higher prices is anybody’s guess. The first lights will(?) appear in May with higher NEMA numbers and supposedly be followed with even higher angles by the end of the year.
I’m happy with the promised improvements yet didn’t realize how low that these Nema numbers were in the first place due to where my first light was mounted under a flying gable.
I think that they told me a ‘4’ by May and a ‘5’ by 2019 yet I need the latter (minimum) up on my 28’ pole and will probably start looking for a ‘7’ if I can find one in 4000K or less.
Have any other free world or overseas (reasonably priced) lights made this far of a jump yet(?)…or is Morris the only one out there plugging away with (lower bean angle) high output/low Kelvin lights for the common man?
(beam angles explained): Beam Spread & NEMA Types | Flood Lighting Technical Application Data – Expert LED Lighting
…btw…I realize that after 5 months of asking the same question (see the title of this thread) that there probably is nobody out there other than Morris pushing $200 delivered lights with these specs.
The next step up to get this project back on track?
I’m not sure that I want to know. :person_facepalming:
Wellllll….never say never: https://relightdepot.com/specs/LEDMPAL80-100-150.pdf
If these aren’t the same Morris lights (they say ‘Best Lighting’ which don’t seem to carry them or manufacture them anymore here in the U.S.http://www.bestlighting.net) the housings are pretty much look a likes.
Initial thoughts (I saw these for $160 online):
Is the massive drawdown in output over time (see the last column) due to the quality of the chips here or did I simply miss the boat somewhere in that this is ‘common’ in LED arrays of this nature?
There is very little information in terms of the beam pattern and the amount of light shown (where) as compared to Morris. https://www.lightbulbs.com/catalog/product_pdfs/morris/71833-Spec.pdf. This will be a real crap shoot in terms of wondering what it will illuminate on a 28’ pole (65’ isn’t much; yet spill is obviously what you’re after).
No lumen difference between 4000K and 5000K at 150 watts despite the obvious in other sizes.
Frustrating that there isn’t anyone out there (on here) who plays around with these things or who applies them on a daily basis.
I would pay the extra money (within reason) to get what I want yet there seems to be no middle ground between these lights and near insanity in terms of price…and what is the ‘gold standard’ in the (non-fake LED) area lighting market anyways?
Everybody has been great in this thread and have really helped it evolve.
Went with the LF3150WW-TR (3000K this time around) on page A17 with the type 2 lens (explained on pg. A56). http://www.westgatemfg.com/media/pdf/catalogs/OUTDOOR%20LIGHTING.pdf
I’m hoping that this will be the best selection for my application (save a much higher number NEMA scale beam angle) a 28’ pole situated close to the house on the other gabled end. The light will try to illuminate what the other gable light does not (side yard) and the other end of the house
The whole interchangeable lens concept took me by surprise as I was certainly hung up on the previous NEMA beam angle numbers mentioned and probably never getting what I was after. This one came in at $236 (I didn’t shop around).
We’ll see what happens…
….dimming control and motion sensors on page A53. 
http://www.westgatemfg.com/media/pdf/catalogs/OUTDOOR%20LIGHTING.pdf
I finally managed to hook the 15,500 lumen Westgate up using an extension cord on the second story porch so that I could judge where I wanted it to point on the 28’ pole. The Type 2 beam pattern is pretty much as advertised (oblongish). The coverage is hard to judge at 13’ with a deck below your feet yet I’m pretty impressed. The tint seems even better than the Morris and seemingly more natural. The overall brightness seems less (as advertised) yet the other one is 30’ up so I have no idea. The beam patterns will probably overlap a bit so we’ll see.
Light years different (better) than any other yard light that I’ve ever owned or installed. i like the idea of the remote operated motion sensor with dimmer yet I’ve not been quoted it and I’m not sure that I want to part with the coin. Might just go dawn to dusk at only 150 watts yet even a cheap timed motion control has its advantages.
Again, I was just as skeptical this time around regarding any 3000K claim as I was with the Morris. It sure beats the halogens, sodiums and halides.
I am following every word. I like what you are doing.
Thanks my friend. I follow your adventures as well and learned in the process. Too many projects this spring so I decided to bust my finger all up and put them all on hold. It will get up on that pole laying in the driveway (still) soon enough as I’m eager to see what it looks like. Cutting the cable and going back to the antenna/simpler days of old right above this new light is a motivator in and of itself.
We’ll see…
…in the meantime, I went to Home Depot and picked up 2 small socket extensions. I had previously purchased a 100,000 L corncob at Menards on a whim (sale price was $52 if remember). Screwed all 3 in to a standard two bulb floodlight style motion light (had to support it a bit at the fixture deflector’s edge) This should get me by until I’m all healed up and the Westgate can (finally) shine.
…I would say that a 100,000 lumen corncob might not be the most efficient way to light up an area but that it does the job in a pinch. Directional shielding or just plain shieldng your view of it is obviously needed. It throws light a lot farther than expected and some nice shadows in terms of any movement through the coverage area.
Lost all sense of reason/frugality/(not to mention) pledges made and purchased the following today:
(1) PN# SK618-601X outdoor rated control which senses motion (turns on/off and has an adjustable timer), is remotely dimmable and which can be manually controlled (off/on) through PN# SK618RC. The remote is evidently RF controlled and should go through walls.
The above was what I was told these two part numbers would do for the Westgate light above.
Again, we’re back to ‘we’ll see’….
I put 4 of these up along with motion sensors at my house. 2 in the front, 2 in the back.
2,400 lumens each and all you do is swap out bulbs. :+1:
…amazing that we’ve gotten to the point of swapping these higher lumen bulbs in while forgetting about replacing them anytime soon. The rub seems to be these bulbs at $20 some odd each versus the 10,000 lumen corncobs at around $50 (on sale).
These were reasonably priced, free!
My brothers son is doing a retrofit of stadium lights at a ball field. He is replacing these 1500 Watt - BT56 - Metal Halide fixtures with LED’s.
There were 13 available to me but I only took 3.
It took me awhile to determine that they ran on 240VAC. Here they are on the floor of a commercial building
that has 120VAC 3 phase. To get the full 240VAC I had to connect a booster to up the voltage across 2 legs of the 3 phase from 208V to the full 240V. These things are bright! About 75,000 lumen each and 4000K.
The bulbs, transformers and capacitors are huge.
Believe it or not, those 1500W bulbs are only about $23 each.
Now the hard part, figure out why I need these and use them to fill that need :laughing:
This looks interesting. 16,500 lumens, supposedly.
” 150W Led Flood Light, Missbee Thinner Lighter Outdoor Security Light, 16500Lm, Cold White 6000-6500K, IP67 Waterproof, Landscape Spotlights for garage, yard, lawn and Garden “:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07889QMBJ/ref=olp_product_details?\_encoding=UTF8&me=&th=1