Texas_Ace MT09R Modding thread, 20k+ lumens, 80CRI, can start fires? Yes please.

You a wizard!

I wonder if those E4 min would make that last 300 lumen lol...

Hey there,

I came across Terry’s site & want to order the Haikelite MTO7S XHP70.2. What is the process to send it to you to mod it to this 20K lumen monster?

Chris

On paper it would, it should be about ~21% brighter then the D2 5700k HI LED’s he used. Although many times paper numbers and real world numbers don’t line up perfectly.

Simply order the light from Terry like you normally would but tell him you want to ship it to me and give him your BLF user name to send with the light.

Then contact me via PM to work out exactly what you want done to the light. Terry will send the light to me and I will mod it and then send it to you.

TA, How is the tint like for shave dome P2 5700k XHP70.2? any green tint? Color temperature around 5k? Tint shift better or worse?

20K+ lumen is for the MT09R 70. The MT07S is single emitter and does, what something like ~9000 lumens or so with TA driver?

Thank you sir… xhp70.2 is cranking 22,000 lumen and xhp35 7200 lumen. I couldnt be happier. Mt07s will be on your way soon.

Just place your order with me. When I begin shipping on the 18th all but just a very few will got to TA even if it is just for the driver install so I will ship it to him with the others.

As far as what modifications you would like just send TA a PM and he will take from there.

I have not tried it on the 5700k myself yet but I know that the 4000k looks pretty good with a shaved dome. None of that puke green tint of days past. It does get warmer and a bit more yellow.

I am going to guess that the 5700k will fair pretty good as well just no first have experience with it. All my lights are NW.

oops... He is right I just noticed that you asked about the MT07S

If you want to order the MT07S that is simple just place the order and I normally would just ship that to you... You can talk with TA and ask him what if any modifications he may be able to do to it.

hiKARlnoob is right if you are looking for the 20k plus lumen light that would be the MT09R 70.2. Unless something has changed and I was never told about it I can pretty much promise you that you are not going to get anywhere close to 20k lumen from the MT07S.

It is a great light even totally stock. It is one of the first Haikelite models I ever purchased and it is still one of my favorites.

That is a lesson all of us have learned at some point the hard way. Still I think it may be worth a try.. As soon as things settle a little and I am sure I have any orders for the 70.2 stock I have is either gone or stopped selling for some reason I will get with you on that.

I know what the driver can do even with stock emitters so I do believe it would be worth the money to at least try. Even if it came out the same output as Newlumens 35 high I would still not be disappointed.

yeah, I prefer NW as well. However, 4000k is lowest I go, any warmer CT is too yellow for me. That is why I asked for shave dome 5700k; I kinda hope it will set somewhere around 5000~5200k, at cold side of NW.

The latest LED’s don’t shift nearly as much as the older ones, If I had to guess it would be closer to 5300-5500. Still not that bad though.

Very happy with that result! Good to know mine is not an outlier on the lower end.

I’ve been wondering what is the point of choosing the XHP35 HD over the XHP35 HI? It seems if you want it to be floodier, then just go for the XHP70.2 or if you want somewhere midway, wouldn’t it make more sense to pay just a little bit more for the dedomed 70.2, which will probably give the same amount of throw as the XHP35 HD but with triple the lumen output?

In my case I figure I will start off with the HD and see what it is like. Then if I decide I would prefer a HI I will simply slice the domes off. Technically this should give a bit better output then a normal HI anyways.

Plus I have never regretted going with an HD yet, the extra lumens they offer seems to balance out the reduced intensity and the end result is only around ~10% less throw in the first lights I did back to back tests with IIRC,

Oh good point with being able to shave the dome on the HD so you can get a higher binned HI!

it’s too dangerous :nerd_face:

Hope it is okay that I post this really quick TA... Part of it everyone needs to know...

I have 2 MT09R 35 High left both now have the final version of TA's driver. I just completed installing the drivers and they both are smooth as butter and both have output levels between 6500 to 6700 lumen both have stock emitters both are white (Silver, never will I get why they call that white) one has CW emitters and one has NW emitters. I really should have priced them higher than I have but these are left from the fist batch I purchased so I got a much better discount on these. The price you will see on my website. These are the last 35 Highs I will be able to get until Haikelite has completed the new driver and is installing them at the factory so 5 or 6 week at least.

One other quick thing... I have had a few people ask why I raised the price of the 30 MT09R's 70.2's that are on the way now. I raised the price by $20.00 not trying to make a ton of extra money but they would only let me order 30 units total. Even though I get wholesale pricing with it being only a 30 unit order I do not get the same volume discount that I did when I first opened and had ordered 125 units total.

The 30 units on the way actually cost me $21.34 each more than the lights I had in stock previously. If he had let me order 100 or more than I get much better volume discounts and can keep prices a little lower. Dale is gonna get annoyed at me as it is for not running them at retail but he will get over it this time. Anyway, truth is if I go even $5.00 cheaper I am getting very close to not making enough to cover shipping to me then shipping back out. They honestly are about as low as I can go. I did make sure to get only NW emitters as the NW seems to be getting much better performance even the stock emitters.

Okay sorry TA I just wanted everyone to know that I am not raising the price by that 20 to be greedy lol...

Thanks very much.

I don’t think it works like that. It’s the dome that gives it a higher bin. Slice the dome off and it drops to the next lower bin due to the loss of lumens.

Going from a 35 HD to a 70.2 HI is a really big jump. It will never equal the throw.

The 50.2 is the middle step between them. Concerning hot spot sizes, and this is based on my measurements and observations, I think the 35 HD should be about the same size as a 50.2 HI. The 50.2 HD should about the same size as the 70.2 HI. So you basically have 4 different hot spot sizes from the 3 emitters depending on whether they have a dome or not.

50.2 HI = sliced dome
50.2 HD = dome intact