Texas_Ace MT09R Modding thread, 20k+ lumens, 80CRI, can start fires? Yes please.

Just to get technical, do you set it to 50% the amp draw (or what is equivalent to that) or do you set it to 50% of the ramping numbers? I think NarsilM uses 150 steps? Something like that.

I set it to approx 50% duty PWM. So 255 is 100%, and I generally set the ramp to around ~125-130pwm.

Keep in mind that this is a new feature. It just came out in NarsilM v1.2 when the GT came out, so officially like 4 or 5 months ago. Lexel just started using NarsilM v1.2 in his drivers maybe 1 month ago.

TA has been messing with NarsilM v1.3. I guess the beta version, right? It’s officially not out yet. Not that I have heard. Tom E has also been MIA recently. He’s the one that is usually tinkering with it and improving it.

Hey guys I will begin shipping all of the new orders for the MT09R 70.2 blue and green versions probably Wednesday possibly Thursday of this coming week.

For those interested now is the time to get it ordered. Any left not ordered I will be paying for the drivers myself and installing them and the price will go to full retail which is much more than I have them offered for now.

Right now they are marked up just enough that I make a very small profit and cover shipping.

I'm happy to sell all of them at the price they are at now. However if he completes the drivers we agreed he would build to cover these 30 units I will have to pay him just like anyone else if they do not all sell.

This light sells for over 200.00 dollars from at least one of the European dealers. I would prefer they sell as opposed to buying the remaining drivers and installing them. Then marking the price back to retail.

Just keeping everyone informed... You can get them cheap right now and for 20 dollars more no other light in the same format comes close to it for the price...

Okay.

I guess I confuse people when I say steps. The highest step is about #150 and that is equal to the software number 255 which is full power.

So around ~125-130pwm is about the 75th to 80th step if I remember correctly.

I am trying my best to not get involved into flashing my own drivers or assembling my own drivers. That’s too extreme. Lol

125-130 pwm usually happens to be around the 130th step due to the way the human eye works. I only cut off a very small part of the ramp when I do this.

So small it is unlikely you would actually stop in that part of the ramp as each step must be larger and larger to make the ramp appear smooth to the human eye.

A linear ramp is what the MT09 came with stock and everyone can attest to how horrible that was.

So let me get this straight…
$120 I get the light and upgraded driver that would hit 22k lumen but I’ll have to mod it myself?
Or do I pay the light and whatever choice you listed in the bottom?

If you prefer to answer in pm I can send you a pm too

The purchase from Terry is separate from me. You simply tell him you want him to ship it to me if that is what you want. I think he also has some stock drivers he can install if you want that as well and I have a whole bunch of them here if you want one lol.

Far as my price for modding, The driver is $20, the labor for a driver only install is $15 which includes the base $5 fee for work on any light to handle all the time, packing, shipping, order details, messages ect. Then shipping to you naturally. This is $10-12 for most of the US.

You can also install the driver yourself if you want and just have me ship the driver to you, in which case it is $22.90 for the driver shipped to you.

So light is $120
modding it from you is $20
labor $15
Shipping about $10 (for US)
I’m looking at about $165~170 for 22k lumens correct?
Thanks for your fast reply!

Okay, that makes more sense.

I probably run my L6 on about the 130 step as well. Just a little below max.

Not to tell anyone how to spend their hard earned money…but being skeptical and thrifty person…I had a hard time putting another $100 into this light. After learning about Texas Ace, his abilities, his knowledge, his hardware and seeing the results of my $100 mod (on top of the $125 I already paid), I cannot recommend his services enough. What ever extra money you send his way will be a bargain for what you get back in skill and hardware. Not to mention the frustration you can eliminate by having a professional mod and test your light.

I have limited skills, and hate goofing stuff up…so paying for the services WAS the bargain versus me fumbling around, staring at stuff and hoping I didn’t ruin something.

No brainer for me.

That is just for a driver install with the stock LED’s. The stock LED’s have been doing around ~16-19k lumens.

For the full 20k+ Lumens the LED’s need to be replaced with better ones and the springs also need to be bypassed.

The LED selection is in the OP. The P2 or 80cri 4000l LED’s should put you in the 21-23k lumen range. One of the biggest reasons to do this mod is to be able to pick exactly what LED tint you want in your light instead of some random bargain bin LED’s.

The complete “package” deal for a 20k+ lumen light needs everything (except the dedome, that is optional)

Driver - $20
LED’s - $35
Labor for reflow, driver install and testing - $25
Spring bypasses - $10
Shipping - $12

Total for my modding - $102 without the dedome

The MT09R purchase is separate from that.

Exactly, that is the same thing I used to do, ramp up to max and then step down till I could just tell it was getting dimmer, this usually ended up around 50% power.

By limiting the ramp to 50% it saves me a lot of time having to ramp up and then back down. I just find I never use modes between 50% and max the vast majority of the time.

The reduced stress on the cells, driver, LED’s and heat output sealed the deal on the production version getting the 50% ramp.

I think it is. It's accuracy is as good or better than meters costing way more money. I've got 4 different meters and out of all of them it is easy the most accurate and it costs one quarter of the price of one of my meters.

Yep... I get all sorts of information from him...

Even if it is just the driver the difference is huge..

Like I've told many that email me. My personal light I've only swapped the driver and with stock NW emitters and the difference is a major difference.

Would using TA driver on the stock NW LEDs on the MT09R melt the springs in the long run?

The TA driver for the 70.2 must have a main driver spring bypass the spring just can't take the amperage. The other springs in the battery tube will be fine.. My personal MT09R 70.2 has stock NW emitters and the output is just a touch over 20k lumen. I got a video floating somewhere around here showing that after installing TA's new driver my light will easily set my news paper on fire in about 15 seconds lol. So it is a ton of power. But the stock NW emitter are not too bad at all and, you can always upgrade those anytime you may want to.

The stock neutral white emitter are a much better quality than the cool white. Dale and I were talking last week and right now the NW 70.2 emitters are his most expensive emitters. They are still not top of the line and there are much better bin and quality 70.2 emitters. You would think the cool white emitters would out perform the neutral white both being stock but no so. Even using the old stock driver the NW emitters were in most cases 1000 lumen brighter than the CW.

Just a side note I have actually bypassed every spring and by passing the springs in the battery tube did not cause any noticeable difference.

Just FYI everyone... Only the newly designed TA driver for the MT09R series of lights has been approved for use in these lights. Haikelite has contracted Texas Ace to design and build the driver for the MT09R series and is still under contract by the company.

Haikelite has agree to allow emitter changes completed by Texas Ace as he is still under contract by the company so as long as you request emitter changes that are of the same type (Example 70.2 emitter for the 70.2 version and a 35 High emitter for the 35 High version manufactured by Cree of course) then your warranty will still be honored by the company.

Naturally of course once anyone purchases something it belongs to them and they may do with it as they choose however, as the North American representative for Haikelite I must advise you that any modifications other than stated above or any driver changes that are not the driver that has been approved by Haikelite will void your warranty. The only driver approved by Haikelite is the Texas Ace driver for both the 70.2 and 35 High version.

Thank you all.

No... The driver main spring has to be bypassed unless it is decided to go to a dual spring.

The springs in the battery tube are not under nearly the current that the driver spring .

I would be interested in the sphere at that price