[New Release] Mankerlight E05 II AL/Cu 1300 Lumen Highest Output Pocket EDC Flashlight in 14500/AA Class

I see another ad that includes the battery.
Manker U22 1500 Lumen CREE XHP35 HI LED Flashlight Fast charging USB Type-C Pocket Torch 4800mAh 21700 Rechargeable Battery $69.95
http://s.aliexpress.com/fEfumMZZ

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I’m sure I saw this for $55.95 with the included cell, because I posted about it in another thread. I’m beginning to think it was a presale on mankerlight.com?

It looks like Manker might be using the Samsung 48G:

More 21700’s:
https://www.imrbatteries.com/21700-batteries/

I suppose you could temporarily fit an 18650 with a magnet and some o-rings.

Did you delete something?

Yeah, I don’t want to go off on a rant in Mankers thread. Some people like small throwers, I have no use for them. My C8 sits on a shelf.

Anybody got one already?

Looks like StandardBattery got one (post #33): Review: Manker U12 (EDC, 20700, Rechargeable, XHP50 II) - #33 by StandardBattery

Hi someone asked me to comment on my U22, so here are some initial observations. First I’ve only played with this light a few times over a couple weeks, and I just took it outside for it’s first side-by side comparison.

I bought this light first and foremost because it ran on a 21700, second because it had USB-C charging, 3 because it was a bit of a thrower and I tend to not have many of those; I’m more of a nice clean flood beam person. Lastly I don’t need this light for anything in particular so I can’t judge how it does, or does not, meet any specific need.

First maybe the obvious; this style of light tends to be a bit front heavy, and this one feels similar, but it does balance just behind the switch so it’s a bit more comfortable to use than I expected. The light is quite small so you can easily pocket this thrower in a coat pocket.

As mentioned earlier in this thread I believe, the button is quite sensitive so you’ll want to secure the light during carry so the button cannot easily be activated, or unscrew the tailcap a bit to serve as a lockout. Having to lock it out can be a deal breaker for some use-cases.

The Manker UI is what it is, love it, hate it, I can get along with it if I need to, but long-press for off is not something I really like.

The construction of the light seems fine, I purchased mine without the Manker battery, and just use a bare Samsung INR21700-48G flat-top and it works fine. I have not tried the USB-C charging yet, but I will soon just for a test. I won’t use the internal charger on a regular basis unless I get a protected battery for the light, and that is not likely to happen. Overall a nice looking light.

For a quick test i decided to put it side-by-side with a Convoy L4 I have. I don’t remember buying that light, but someone on here must have convinced me to try it. :slight_smile:

The light is roughly 1.5cm shorter than the L4, I didn’t measure it, but I like that it is more compact. The inner diameter of the bezel is almost equal to the outer diameter of the L4 bezel. Makes for a nicer looking light and a cleaner beam.

Just looking a the U22 High compared to the top level on the L4, the L4 has a slightly tigher beam and it throws farther. With the U22 on Turbo I found the throw to be essentially equal for visual purposes. This test was not too detailed, but I was surprised that there was not a larger difference between the U22 and the L4 XM-L2.

The color temperature of my Neutral-White U22 was cooler than the XM-L2 in the L4; the L4 tint was slightly nicer outdoors imho, but the U22 was still very acceptable to me. And the clean beam was overall nicer.

Thanks, I assume then you have the CW version?

How’s the spill beam, would you say it’s a good combination of throw and flood?

No my light is the Neutral White version.

Well I’m a flood type of guy, so I don’t know that I would say this light has a good combination of throw and flood, but there is some flood that hit the ground just a few feet away, far enough to still give a bit of that tunnel look, but it was pleasant enough. Quite clean, not a lot of rings that can typically be distracting in the near field. the business end of the light is a good design, better than the L4.

It’s by no means a pencil beam so I think most would say a good balance, but for me a light like the TK35 has a balance more to my liking with the reach powered by pure lumen output.

Sounds good , thanks!

Is there a chance of someone orchestrating a GB?

Manker does not do GB’s.

Is there a point in waiting for a deal or should I just buy it?

I would PM Freeme or Madmax just in case they have a coupon.

I think the best we could hope for is $55 with the cell included, I believe that was the presale price when this thread began, that package is now $69.95, however we can still get the light without battery for $55.95

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20180426201828&SearchText=u22+manker

I’d be great though if someone had a deal w/o the cell for $40-$45. Checked MadMax, nothing on this one yet.

Oh well, I missed how that was a pre-sale price. The price hike is bad.
I PMed M4D M4X and Freeme, the former said he’ll see what he can do. He has some codes for other Manker lights…

I got no further info from M4D M4X yet, but noticed that he has a general code for flashlights on HKE which drops the price by 8%. That’s still over my budget though…

If only there’s no long press to turn off…

Regarding the battery from a non fanatic. just an old collector.

18650’s do 99.9% of all battery requirements,
up to the real high output hand held torches.

Those. would be better served (I think) with the existing 26650’s.
Which I also prefer with a larger? stronger light.
Hand gripping wise.

They give Higher capacity. Longer life. With a more comfortable grip in my hands, which are average sized.

WHY go backwards for some novelty?
I can’t see there being much actual extra power\longevity in realtime from a 20700. over a top quality, high capacity\output 18650 cell 3600 to 4000ish, on paper, (with 5500mA in a 26650)
for the costing it would take for a changeover to.
IE Not enough extra anything.

ALL I do is take a spare battery in my pocket. (simple).
With a clear S2+ or little Jetbeam Pro as backup in other pocket.

On longer walks I have the choice of 3 x 26650 cell torches.
2 of them are optional battery 18650\26650.

This is not 20700 but 21700.
The top of the line 18650 are actually like 3200 mAh at reasonable current (3A to be precise).
The top of the line 21700 are actually like 4600 mAh at reasonable current (3A to be precise).
The top of the line 26650 are actually like 5600 mAh at reasonable current (3A to be precise).

21700 light weighs much less than 26650 making a nice middle option.

And, BTW, I tend to think that lights smaller than 18650 are more than 0.1% of the market.