FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

Interest list updated.


- TK

That’s impressive. Natural language processing is tough stuff (or so I’ve heard). On the other hand, how about setting a recognizable pattern and inform everyone to include in the request?

Btw been a while since I last read this thread, now I’d like to book 2 more (already in for 1).

Thanks!

Hi TK,

About muggle-mode. Without following too much discussion about Anduril and maybe repeating a thought process already finished, I just took the time to read the current Anduril firmware in the second post, and based on some discussion on BLF and my own experience, I think that disconnecting the power to get out of muggle mode makes it too easy. It will make me not lending the light out to muggles if simply opening the battery compartment or even loosening the tailcap will make the FW3A into something frightening for them.

Maybe another six clicks to get out of muggle mode would do the trick, instead of disconnecting the power. I think that muggle mode is recognisable enough for flashoholics (or else it may need a subtile visible marker somehow during operation) that they will realise that they are in it and have to perform the six-clix to get back to full operation.

Hm, that is a point.
I guess about 60% of the people I show a lamp look at the battery.

Please add me to the list for 1 unit.

Add me to the list for another one.
Total 2
I do hope this starts making progress again soon.

I’m 1038, could you put me down for another two please?

I asked people for feedback about muggle mode, but didn’t get much consensus. Perhaps it’s time to restart that discussion.

Open questions:

  • What UI style should muggle mode have?
    • On/off only, ~150 lm.
    • Low/med/high/off loop, one step per click. (~10/~80/~300 lm)
    • Low/med/high Olight Baton-style UI. (stairstep ramp)
    • Simplified smooth ramp, ~10 lm to ~300 lm.
    • No muggle mode.
  • How should the user exit muggle mode?
    • Disconnect power and wait for the driver’s residual charge to drain.
    • Special sequence of button presses. (probably just 6 clicks, to mirror the steps used to enter muggle mode)

Maybe this should be a poll?

10-300 smooth ramp or 3-4 speed with hold to cycle would be fine with me.

Maybe just limit the MAX level to certain level and leave the rest.

EDIT- Yes I vote give them everything just with a lower max.

I think I’m going for:
Full ramp range enabled
Start from minimum if off upon hold
Start from last value if off upon single click until power cut; default to 1x7135 probably?
No multiclick shortcuts except a ~6+ click sequence to exit muggle mode - not triggered accidentally
Remember muggle mode even after residual charge drains, so that when taken out of a drawer (stored without battery in) it still works just like before it was stored

I just don’t hand my powerful lights to muggles. Problem solved. Lol

Keep some cheaper, less powerful and easier to use lights handy. EE X2R, X5R, X6R, etc…

I would vote for UI style 2, exit method 2.

If I gift the light, that person will have to change the battery.

I like the idea of muggle mode since at $30, with nice looks and small size, this is in gift territory.

Ok, I’ll be that guy…please define “muggle”.

Slang for people who aren’t flashlight enthusiasts and would find the complex UI needed to implement all the controls we could enable into a single button interface a bit confusing. Muggle mode is a simplified mode that’s more intuitive and doesn’t need an instruction manual to use.

TK, maybe we should start with a user story for Muggle Mode?

Or at least list the applicable use cases?

A non magical person in the world of Harry Potter. In other words “normal folk”.

In this instance, people who don’t know how to handle fancy flashlights.

That 1st prototype had grown on me. I would be interested in one in that finish for sure.

I agree. Shouldn’t muggles be using $2 zillion lumen Tac lights sold for $50? Personally I think it’s a pointless mode for a light aimed at enthusiasts.

No, they’re using those because they don’t have this and other nice lights. Also: it’s just not hard to add some kind of simplified mode, it’s all code.