FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

No, they’re using those because they don’t have this and other nice lights. Also: it’s just not hard to add some kind of simplified mode, it’s all code.

Hi TK,

I think a poll would be in order, with those UI choices, just to keep housekeeping easy.

Until then, I vote:

Low/med/high/off loop;

and

Special sequence of button presses.

Thanks! :)

One of my EDC lights has a X5/X6 driver, and I keep it at muggle mode because in thoughtless daily use I ’m kind of a muggle myself, in that I need the light to work simple without suddenly blinding someone.

I like the muggle ramp and exit via a button sequence. Second in line the off-low-med-highish-off.

As a side note, I don’t recommend pairing “low/med/high/off loop” and “special sequence of button presses”, since the click-per-mode UI is the most likely for people to accidentally input the six clicks to exit.

That could be alleviated by using an Olight Baton-style UI instead though, where it’s click for on/off and hold to change brightness. Perhaps there should be four UI options instead of three.

Put me up for one, thanks.

For muggle mode, I would vote:

For exit muggle mode, I would vote:

Please, add me in the list for another light (Total = 2 [so far :smiling_imp: ] ).
My current number is 512 on the list.

Has anyone considered a mini dip switch on the board for selecting things like Muggle mode?
It could not be disengaged by accident, easiest way to operate it would be to remove the head and push with a pen.

Typical muggle behaviour: “what does this dipswitch do?” :slight_smile:

We need consistency. The BLF Q8, GT have a 4 click lockout and the Emisar D4 has a 6 click lockout. FW3A a 6 click muggle mode. Maybe we should start giving some frequently used functions a standardized number of button clicks?

Sounds like you need to toss whichever UI you prefer onto all your lights so they all match!

You also loose an IO-pin

interest in one please

There is consistency, between Q8 (NarsilM) and FW3A (AndĂșril).
Hank the owner of International Outdoor Store asked for 6 clicks for lock out as Tom E did the firmware, so it is on the Emisars (IOS).

If you want you can change the clicks in the firmware.

Perhaps the muggle mode needs to simply be a settings/mode lock. We could configure the light to the mode we wanted for muggle in question (limited ramping for my kids, 3 mode click setup for a friend, single mode for Grandpa) and then lock the light into that mode.

I was refering to the Eagle Eye lights. They are good for gifting out to muggles.

One, please.

Another requested for No.455, total lights = 2.

I would vote for either 4 or 6 clicks in and out of muggle, and one mode on/off in muggle, around 150 lumens, as TK suggested.

I’m not really sure why the need exists for a “muggle” mode at all, I mean, we all figured it out, they can too. Just like everyone, if a light is too complex and troublesome to use pick up another one. Look at the folks out there that drive


Agreed, this is hardly a torch to gift or lend to “muggles”. It is for connoisseurs. I understand (know, I designed some) that owners of some very very fast cars are usually offered separate key fobs for their “muggles” to use when they run down to the shops, pick the kids up from school, have them valet-parked etc. making them perform more like a basic Ford Fiesta.

This should be an extreme clean torch, no limits. By all means put something in to calm it down, as long as it is unobtrusive to conscientious owners, and “muggles” can’t disable it by accident. Can’t advise how that might be done securely, that’s a UI design decision for others.