Massive fraud on 18650s in the Littokala Aliexpress stores!

Any battery that comes from AE: Be careful !!
I’ve had a lot of luck so far, no fake ones.

For information purposes only
Just weighed on my scale

30Q raised flat top from BG (https://www.banggood.com/4PCS-Samsung-INR18650-30Q-3000mAh-Unprotected-Button-Top-18650-Battery-With-Protected-box-p-1184782.html ): 47.0g

OMG!!

You’re right!

Massive fake

Oooh this is bad…

Hopefully the cells are not fake though, and the store isn’t fake too. If someone has a constant current tester, we can test both its capacity and current handling.

Yes mine also checked 47gr from IMR. Yet I too take chances, just ordered 4 from BG that are suppose to be 48gr, so to each his own.

These say 48gr………

Heh, good catch! Maybe the picture is of a fake, and the cells are real? Yeah, okay, maybe not….

Has anyone got cells from them recently, and checked to make sure they’re not an obvious fake like that?

I think it is just going to be a gamble for all of us. We’ve ordered from Official/0fficial/Factory Store, etc. You can’t win if you don’t play. I guess we’ll just find out in a few weeks when people start posting back here with their results.

From previous orders I’ve made from the liitokala official store, the 30Qs looked original, capacity tested in spec, and current measured under spec on my Emisar D4, but could be my DMM. The lii-35A were not sanyo GAs, likely sammy 35Es, looked original, capacity and current measured in spec

Nine of the Samsung 30Q 18650 Battery 3000mAh INR18650-30Q Rechargeable Flat Top batteries I purchased from Orbtronics in recent months weight between 46.03 gm and 46.16 gm. The average weight of all nine batteries is 46.09 gm. The scale I used is a recently calibrated AWS-100 that claims 0.01g accuracy.

BTW, the positive nodes on all nine batteries have three wings as shown in this image borrowed from MtElectronics:

Based on what I have learned on this forum, I will examine the six 30Q batteries en-route from the Liitokala Factory Store very carefully! Thanks.

I’ve bought Liitokala Sony VTC6’s earlier this year, and they check out as genuine from every physical and capacity test I know. But I think they were around $5 or $6 each, so maybe they recently changed to a cheaper supplier that is providing them fakes. I doubt the Official (with a O, not a 0) Store is intentionally selling fakes, they may just not realize it.

Or perhaps they are selling at cost. Who really knows?

If shipping was reasonable to other countries then the US, I would’ve bought some first, then testing them at high discharge rates and capacity.

I had only good experience with AliPay. Many troubles settled, some complex, I always won.
So…if we can find any proof of wrongdoing, we have a good chance of ending up with cells that are bad, but free.

Sooooooo, where are we now? Anymore links with authentic cells @ attractive prices in Aliexpress?

Shipping cost for 6pcs 30Q costs $22.11 to my country… kills the deal. :frowning:

…and those 30q’s are 4-spoke positive ends, while the original only has 3.

Even if the shipping is free, it’s still scary.

Since about a year ago, my supplier

https://sunway.aliexpress.com/store/3173029

I bought him some batches 30Q and 35E

Yes, I bought Sony VTC6’s from that store earlier this year, and they’re genuine. Very slow shipping time, but I still recommend them. My latest bunch of cells I got from Illum in the US. A bit more expensive, but shipping was only about a week (though it cost $15).

However, that assumes the Littokala brand hasn’t started getting fakes, as it seems they may be from the other stores that are selling 30Q’s very cheap.

If it turns out the Sunway Store is still selling genuine cells, I might get some more. But at this point, I’ll wait to see if the fakes are a wide-spread problem. The 4-prong picture of 30Q’s on the Littokala Official Store definitely doesn’t give me a good feeling, and they’re supposed to be a reputable store.

Mmmkay fellows, I have a feeling some of you may still “blindly” believe in whatever you're told as long as reasons, and reasons are rooted in your beliefs, which can be empowering… or not.

Well, as I am the law light, let me show you the only AliExpress shop I consider “official” and why: this is AliExpress store number 217753, and it is because in LiitoKala's official chinese website if you click/tap on the LiitoKala® banner at the bottom left of the page you're redirected there. I understand that store may be one of the most regarded ones, but this is no guarantee of a fair product. I can link you reports of fake Lii-35A cells bought there (maybe LG F1L cells, reports of 4-lobe tops and capacity only somewhat above 3Ah).

Oh! Did you noticed the most prominent ad in the store?

I'll “contact” you baby!

Cheers ^:)

Lol. Looks like the batteries aren’t the only fake thing in that store!

Stock model photo!

I have bought there before, mostly the LiitoKala 26650s with good experiences. for 18650s, I have bought the Sony VTC6s and they were genuine. Recently I bought 8 Samsung 30Qs, 8 Pan NCR18650B flat-tops and 6 Sony VTC5s. I will report on them when they arrive but I am optimistic based on past dealings. The prices are excellent with free shipping to the US. Delivery time is always slow but that’s to be expected.

I have purchased bad 18650 cells before that were claimed “Authentic” on a different website. When I opened them, there was nothing on the wrap to identify them. They looked exactly like Authentic batteries and weighed 2mg light. They only held 1850mah, so I requested a refund and returned them. So I lost time in this process. I am certain the batteries were in fact “Authentic”, but in a production environment you get scrap parts. These batteries were most likely defective and were being sold, not up to par. It’s your dollar, your choice, I was only bringing that to your attention.

For the ones here who are so positive these are good batteries trying to sell them, maybe they could offer to buy them from you if they turn out to be defective ……………