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Interested in 2, thanks!

Wow
that is an outstanding poll, and the beam comparison photo went a Loooong way to allay fears that the floodier beam would not have enough throw.

the detailed voting tally is an extremely useful way to visualize different members preferences and priorities

so far the majority, 58%, prefer the High CRI LH351D over the Low CRI XP-L Hi

I must admit I am suprised, as I though based on the Vocal Minority comments that the XP-L would be the favorite

It renews my faith in the possibility that the FW3A project will produce a High CRI light option.

Indeed, it is bizarre to have two polls simultaneously, one for CCT, the other for emitter choice/CRI.

Unless it is a student project to garner some theoretical data to be written up for finals.

Make it real, i.e. the actual possible choices. One poll.

Otherwise I will have to get my head around how to vote tactically for what I want (4000K Samsung, or Nichia, though I don’t really want a Nichia but it seems to have a cult following based on past history when that’s all that there was)

I think it’s more a known quantity thing. I can buy a Jaxman or Emisar with a 219C (and I have), so I know I like those. I’ve read reviews of the Samsung, and I would like to try one, but until and if the FW3A is available with a Samsung, I have to learn how and get the equipment to reflow emitters just to try one. That’s a big commitment for some of us. Well, I couldn’t find any MCPCBs with Samsungs already soldered last time I looked. That could have changed.

To be fair, that tree is only like 10 meters away. I find the floodier option not to be very useful outdoors, because the foreground is always so much brighter than the target. So I plan on having XP-L HI in mine, even if I have to swap the emitters. Maybe I’ll pay an extra $20 to get a MCPCB pre-made from Mtn, but I’d rather just pay an extra $6 and not have to solder anything.

Unfortunately, there aren’t many Condorcet voting services which can do more than one question in the same poll, and I haven’t found a survey site which has good voting systems. So it’s really awkward to gather two preferences at once.

It could be done by multiplying the options, but that would make an awfully long ballot with 30+ candidates for each person to rank.

I would like 2 please.

I’m interested! Please add me to the list.

I’m interested. Please put me down for one. Thanks.

Please sign me up for 2 ea. FW3A flashlights.

Heres a thought that has the potential to double the sales,
offer the FW3A with a choice of both the 4000k LH351D, and the 5000k XP-L Hi.

Some people who would not have bought the Floody 4000k High Cri LED, could buy the throwier and cooler Low CRI option, and vice versa.

Plus, some people will buy both.

I predict there will be no Titanium version (thats a dare).

I’m down for 2, and 1 each of those sounds good, maybe 4500 for the warmer one.

That has been mentioned before. If it can be done / accomplished, I can’t see that it would be anything but a win-win for all involved.

Cause your right I think…. no matter which way it goes there will be people who will not buy this great light because of the emitter preference, as you mentioned above. :frowning:

Brilliant.

lol
that was not one of the choices I gave
here is why

however, I expect some people will swap in N219b 4500k

yes, and that would be unfortunate. I hope most will find a way to have the LED swapped to the flavor of their choice.

fwiw, Some modders have stock of exotic LEDs that can be had for a nominal fee. I sometimes choose modders based on whether thy have an LED I want, and Ive recently had mods done by both Texas_Ace (4500k N219b), and Clemence (2000k E21A quad). I recommend both of them.

Your FW3a’s could be drop shipped to the modder of your choice, and you could end up with a grail LED for less than half the cost of an HDS

Both 219b and e21a are pretty much not usable on a fet light.

I have some 219b FET lights. The tint isn’t as good on direct-drive modes, but it doesn’t generally have problems otherwise. On a FET+N+1 like this, it could work pretty well. The highest regulated mode would be only about 800 lm though.

If the FW3A ends up using the LH351D, please make sure it goes back to the clear 10507. There’s no tint shift whatsoever with the Samsungs, and at least I wouldn’t want it to be even floodier than it already it is.

So far, LH351D and 4500K have held a lead for quite a while. 4250K and 4750K keep swapping for second place, with 4750K currently in the lead. XP-L HI and 219c keep swapping for second place, with XP-L HI currently in the lead.

I haven’t done emitter-CCT correlation yet, but from how things look now, it seems like the best option would be to ask Lumintop to make two flavors:

  • Floody: LH351D 90CRI in 4000K or 5000K (not sure which)
  • Throwy: XP-L HI in … 4A? (~4650K)

I’m not sure if they’ll be willing to do this, but if so, it seems like it would cover the widest range of preferences.

No max. specified length 67mm.
Aim is as compact as possible. Batteries with Micro-USB are ca. 69,7mm.
Maybe if you replace the tail spring.

Would it not be easier to chose one emitter option and give the option to order without leds?