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Yes, the polling site seems to have gone down yesterday, but it came back today. Not sure what the issue was.

The links are at the top of the first post.

Ah, right. I knew that existed for a reason.

Hi HONDARIDER .
The emitter is not decided.
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And, according to the survey, See Emitter type , Nicha 29C has little chance
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Just say how many flashlights you want, or you prefer to wait and see what the emitter will be.
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How many flashlights do you want in total? … x … units? .
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I’m waiting for your answer,
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Please: answer in thread

One please.

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Short list, Last requests .
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Please add me to the list for 2. Thanks!

(Edited to 2 after reading through some of the thread!)

I’m interested. Add me for 1.

I don’t know what happened, but average poll results have been changing over time. I did a quick dirty heat map graph of the results at three different times… 06-10, 06-13, and 06-15. And I noticed some patterns:

  • People who voted early were more likely to prefer warmer temperatures, LH351D, and 219c.
  • People who voted later were wore likely to prefer cooler temperatures and XP-L HI.
  • People who voted in both polls, and used the same name on both, ranked Cree emitters higher, and ranked 4500K to 5000K tints higher, than those who voted in only one poll or didn’t use the same name on both.

I’m not sure if this is interesting to anyone except me, but below are the result snapshots plotted as heat maps.

Correlated votes (people who voted on both polls and used a consistent name) (excludes anons):
2018-06-10:

2018-06-13:

2018-06-15:

All votes (no correlation data included):
2018-06-10:

2018-06-13:

2018-06-15:

Based on what I see in the correlated vote maps, it looks like, if there can be two flavors, the flavors should probably be:

  • XP-L HI 3D
  • LH351D 4000K

Those are the two emitter bins which are closest to the hotspots in the data. And after those, the next most-popular spot appears to be 219c 5000K.

If there are two flavors, I would completely agree on those two.

ToyKeeper wrote:
I don’t know what happened, but average poll results have been changing over time. I did a quick dirty heat map graph of the results at three different times… 06-10, 06-13, and 06-15. And I noticed some patterns:

  • People who voted early were more likely to prefer warmer temperatures, LH351D, and 219c.
  • People who voted later were wore likely to prefer cooler temperatures and XP-L HI.
  • People who voted in both polls, and used the same name on both, ranked Cree emitters higher, and ranked 4500K to 5000K tints higher, than those who voted in only one poll or didn’t use the same name on both.

I’m not sure if this is interesting to anyone except me, but below are the result snapshots plotted as heat maps.

  • Correlated votes (people who voted on both polls and used a consistent name) (excludes anons):

2018-06-10:

2018-06-13:

2018-06-15:

  • All votes (no correlation data included):

2018-06-10:

2018-06-13:

2018-06-15:

Based on what I see in the correlated vote maps, it looks like, if there can be two flavors, the flavors should probably be:

  • XP-L HI 3D
  • LH351D 4000K

Those are the two emitter bins which are closest to the hotspots in the data. And after those, the next most-popular spot appears to be 219c 5000K.

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Wow… I find it very interesting. Pretty amazing really. :+1:

It took me a minute to figure out what the “hotspots” were … but after that it all started making sense.

One question… what are the numbers at the bottom of each square??

Thanks for sharing this TK, it’s pretty neat! :beer: . :slight_smile:

It looks to me like 5000K for the LH351D is a bit hotter on the heatmap than 4000K. I slightly prefer 5000K, but would be happy with either as long as a Samsung option gets produced.

The LH351D is not available in 4500K. It is offered in 4000K and 5000K.

Since the 219c 5000K is available as a D4, one each of the other two as an FW3A pretty much covers the market. I know there were a few of us waiting for the FW3A and putting off a D4 purchase.Maybe D4 availability was a factor in the 219c receiving fewer votes.

That was exactly the reason I didn’t vote for 219C emitters. I’ve got two lights with them already (D4 and a Convoy triple with 4000K).

I will take 2 of whatever emmiter wins unless the price is higher than expected.

Wow. (To Toykeeper) If people voted based on reasons like this, instead of what they think looks good, doesn’t it kind of invalidate the whole poll?

Just asking.

Nice!

The captive pocket clip is one of my favorite features. Could you measure the diameter of its hole?

I really hope Lumintop will make them available separately. Could you try fitting one to an Emisar D4?

Why? It doesn’t change the fact that it’s what they personally want to see in the light. Their reasoning for their vote is irrelevant.

The poll is based on preferences. I prefer floody lights and I also prefer ones that might not heat up as high as others (although I’m not sure if it’ll be a noticeable difference). Having two lights with 219C emitters has shaped my preferences and I’d prefer this light to be able to handle heat a bit better than my D4 and I’d also like it to illuminate the area directly in front of me to the best of its ability. I’d love to see it supplied with an even floodier led as well.

All due respect Jason, I disagree. A person’s vote is their’s to do with as they like…. Whatever their reasoning, it does not invalidate the poll. Seems to me anyway.

It’s an arbitrary number representing the “score” for each cell. But the score itself means nothing, aside from its weight compared to other cells.

On the “all votes” maps, yes. But those don’t attempt to correlate the emitter type and color temperature, so all emitter types have higher scores at 5000K.

The more useful data is in the correlated maps. On those, LH351D has a slight bias toward 4000K. Perhaps I should run it again without votes where XP-L HI was ranked first, to get a better view… Here’s how that looks: