*BLF LT1 Lantern Project) (updated Nov,17,2020)

5000K seems on the cold side for a lantern. Iā€™d think 4000K would be better, or perhaps two 3000K + two 4000K LEDs if they mix reasonably well and donā€™t end up with color casts that shift over angle.

Does anyone else think the profile just feels tall for a lantern? i.e. the tall base/battery compartment combined with a tiny little lantern top above.

I realize this is based off of an existing light to save time, but the aesthetic feels weird to me.

Iā€™d love to see a smaller version - maybe like 1 or 2 18650ā€™s that sit horizontally to reduce height and size.

number 856 on the interest list

only on the interest list once at number 857

Got a third lantern at number 858 on the interest list

you are added at number 859 on the interest list

I would not think that functionally the length is a problem, but of course the general reference being a kerosine lantern, the proportions feel off. I have been looking at it but at least when using the 4 18650 batteries in this orientation, the lantern is bound to be about as tall as the prototype, give or take 1 or 2 cm.

good points. it was mentioned before and can be an accessory possibly to add.

Thanks :slight_smile: definitely a better CAD or cross section for Thorfire would be beneficial.

for using four 18650ā€™s to get the run times including the output which is the main intention of this project, its size is not bad really. the current height works much better for resting on tables than any flatter shorter lanterns i have for illuminating a table top, and its already much smaller & shorter than any other factory lantern i have used that can even match half the output of this lantern.

I am interested in one.

For the rubber seal of the USB:
Utorch UT02 and Manker 22 Manker 21 have round ones which are pretty good. They have two sealing lips and they are better than any rectangular ones I have seen.
Maybe we can get the same type of covers for the charging port?

I understand that some people seriously donā€™t want 5000K LEDs in their lantern, but I still donā€™t understand why itā€™s a problem. If the CCT mixing works right (it should, because TK is writing it) then you can use anything from the bottom (currently 3000K) up to the top, but you donā€™t HAVE to go to the top! You could STILL use only lower CCT. But, it doesnā€™t work the other way. If there is no 5000K, then those of us who WOULD use it CANā€™T.

DBSAR, this isnā€™t directed at you. I know youā€™ve already responded that you donā€™t have any 5000K emitters to test with. This is just a call-out to those who are adamant that the light should absolutely NOT ship with 5000K emitters installed. I donā€™t understand why they keep insisting on that.

Can you add a 3 minutes versio of sunset? Or 2,5min on a certain level and then dim to zero?
It is nice when you are in a cold tent in winter time and you zip your sleeping bag

Xiaomi has a desk lamp which does color mixing up to 6500K
Itā€™s for to stay awake.
Here is a review from budda

Interested in one

Thanks

Well, you lose brightness at either extreme because you have half the number of LEDs, unless the plan is to make that not happen by limiting the brightness when all 4 LEDs are on so that brightness is constant over color temp. If the color temp is adjustable, I hope itā€™s done in a way that the light remembers the color temp between power cycles so you donā€™t have to set it every time itā€™s turned on.

Personally, I donā€™t think 4 LEDs is enough to make adjustable color temp work. The two lanterns I have with have many more LEDs and a lot more diffusion for color mixing.

Example 1 / Example 2

To me, this would be even more reason to make the extremes more extreme. Then, you get a wider range of CCT that still includes all the emitters. However, if you think about a current regulated driver, the only light youā€™ll really be missing is the difference in efficiency going from one set of LEDs to the other (cooler CCT emitters get more lm/w output) and going from 4/6 emitters to just 2/3 emitters (LEDs are more efficient at lower wattage, so same current going to fewer LEDs will mean higher wattage per LED, so lower efficiency). Those differences in efficiency will probably NOT make a noticeable difference in output as seen by the eye. But, I still want a wide CCT range, because I just do! :innocent:

FWIW I really prefer a warm tint. As others have stated a campfire is around 2000k. I have the bld a6 with the 5a tint which is nice. Cool white lights all seem harsh and cheap to me. But to each their own. Understand that the majority of people want a cooler white than I would. Thatā€™s fine. Not asking for a change, just expressing an opinion.

Iā€™m really excited to get one of these. Depending on how it all plays out,final specs and price I could easily see myself getting a second. Is there any projected eta? His summer, calendar year? Probably a bit early to know. Just figuring out my expectations.

qft, I am with you all the way , the warmer the better for me to. I am also wandering if it will have all those special and cool features that fw3a will have like candle-, lightning mode etc. IMHO It s cool and all but unnecessary and kind of stupid in a flashlight but in lantern like this absolutely necessary. This is where I would use modes like that, in flashlight I would never use it except maybe to show of but then again I am not a showoff.

I am also wandering if it will have all those special and cool features that fw3a will have like candle-, lightning mode etc. IMHO It s cool and all but unnecessary and kind of stupid in a flashlight but in lantern like this absolutely necessary. This is where I would use modes like that, in flashlight I would never use it except maybe to show of but then again I am not a showoff.
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Well you wandered to the right place. AFAIK, the lantern is planned to run Anduril, which is the same program that produces the modes you listed

nember 860 on the interest list for joechina

interest list number 861 for our Black Sabbath fan. :sunglasses:

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LOL! Seriously bro, I was just thinking ā€œMan Iā€™m really late to the party on thisā€ And then I saw your postā€¦ā€¦ No worries. Iā€™m good with being on it for two :slight_smile:

Please add me to the list for one of these beauties. Thanks!