Oh, I know it’ll beat it. It’s just a matter of how much, and how dramatic the visual difference is. A comparison with the D1S would probably be the best, but I’m not sure if M4DM4X has access to one.
The difference in those pictures is easily the difference between XM-L2 and XP-L HI, given the same emitters and same or similar power levels there won’t be a lot of difference between the C8 and Mini GT in beam profile or throw, I’m thinking.
But the Mini GT is actually a shorter, more compact, light, albeit slightly larger in diameter, and the side switch set’s them apart quite nicely. It becomes more of a matter of style choice, the 3-legged dog that is the C8 or a nice neat style reference to the Throwmaster in the Mini GT’s big brother.
Is today a leather loafer day or a hiking boot day? Teva sandals or all out running shoes? 
unfortunaely i neither own a C8 with a HI LED nor a D1S
Nice, that is exactly what I was thinking given the GT Mini has twice the lumens, no dome and a slightly bigger reflector.
I have zero use for C8 style lights (small throwers) and did not sign up for the mini. Now I think I will. Let me head over to the sign up page.
If I found a host C8 with side switch and xpl-hi plus bought a driver from Lexel to get NarsilM I would be at $40+ I’m sure, then I would have to actually build the thing and it still wouldn’t look as cool as the GT Mini. Lol
Can you make a comparison with a well driven C8? With BLF A6 driver or similar?
if you send me one I can do :D
I am in for 3x
Thanks
Jens
Did you sign up?
The sign-up list is over here.
Thanks for the hint I made.
Super deal you make again.
Many Thanks
greeting
Jens
Interested for 1 mini GT thanks.
See post 274.
Already done JasonWW thanks, this is only for to be sure.
I’m also in for one or two…
In case the budget allows it
Does the GT mini have current control / stable output?
There aren’t any driver details yet.
The XPL can certainly go higher than 4.5A, so it might not be a FET driver. We will get details eventually.
Question, if the light pushes 1200lumens or more on that emitter, how hard is that pushing the emitter before its getting dangerous ?
XPL-HI are known to do 7.5A and 2000 lumen in raw form. So the GT Mini is not maxing it out.
At 4.5A it can do about 1500 lumen. So in a light with its losses, let’s guess 20%, you get about 1200 lumen. So the lumen numbers seem realistic.
(This is according to Koef3’s tests)
Never seen an XP-L HI get close to 2000 lumens. But I’ve only used a few hundred of em, might not have gotten a good batch.
Edit: To answer the question, I’ve been pushing the XP-L and it’s HI variants as hard as Li-ion power supplies can drive them ever since Cree made them available. Haven’t had one fail to date. I use the XP-L HI for a mile+ thrower at 6.49A, not a problem.
Edit II: Jason, it’s confusing enough when the Chinese manufacturer’s use emitter lumens to quote their lights, please refrain from that practice as it only complicates things for new people with questions. Now, I HAVE seen an XP-L W2 HD make over 2000 lumens in a flashlight, and of course the XP-L2 can surpass that and does, easily taking amperage that would fry anything else in it’s Cree family (XP-XM class). [The XP-L W2 was a rare bird, don’t know if any are still available]
This is the raw led in an integrating sphere with a power supply and good cooling.
Once you put it in a flashlight you get all the associated losses.
Here is Koef3’s review. I’m almost positive he uses a professionally calibrated integrating sphere.
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Irrelevant dude, it can’t come close in a flashlight powered by Li-ion cells. If it can’t do it in our lights, why even bother to quote it?
And you still haven’t learned how to properly size an image for sharing? :person_facepalming: