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Haiklite MT09R GB replacement drivers

Since the original GB thread has been closed, I wanted to start a new thread for information about the replacement drivers. I received a PM from Dale today, stating that the replacement driver was shipped out today. Did anyone else receive a message from Dale?

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No, but I haven’t requested one yet. I will mail him today.

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I requested a new driver on April 6th, but unfortunately have not heard anything from Dale.

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I requested a new driver on April 6th, but unfortunately have not heard anything from Dale.

I messaged Dale back on March 25th about a replacement driver.

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Maybe he will contact us step by step in the order of inquiries.

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Dale told me that he will mail me the new driver in 3 to 5 days that is 3 days ago. I will email him again next Monday for the tracking number. He responded all my emails pretty quick.

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I received an email (not PM) from Dale yesterday, June 6, stating the drivers were available and requesting confirmation of my shipping address.

This appears to be in response to a thermal test report that I emailed to him on March 13 regarding my XHP35 MT09R (at Terrys request). It looks like he kept that email as a tickler, and replied to it when the drivers became available.

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Dalevwanted to send me a Driver if ist aviable. Did not recieve a shipping notice. Asked Dale on 19. About shipping, but did not get an answer.

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I postponed contacting Dale regarding the new driver. No hurry on this side, and I’m sure it’s hectic busy at Haikelite. New MT09R with improved driver should soon hit the stores, and people should receive the new driver soon hopefully. I’ll check that out first.
On a side note, I just came back from a midnight hike in the woods with both my original MT09R 70.2, and good grief the output and beam is just a dream. It’s a stunning light alright, and I’m glad mine work well.

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Oh yeah.

And while the color rendition is not as beautiful as my newly modded BLF Q8 LH351D, color rendition is still good at 80CRI.

And momentary is still so fun to play with.

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Oh yeah. And while the color rendition is not as beautiful as my newly modded BLF Q8 LH351D, color rendition is still good at 80CRI. And momentary is still so fun to play with.
Yeah… but your Q8 is not BLUE. Big Smile
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I ordered new M09R.
It has new driver Texas Avenger.
I recived new drivers to my MT09R ordered from group buy.
Tonight I ‘ m going to measured lumens from new MT09R and compare with my modded MT09R from group buy.

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smokuxx1987 wrote:
I ordered new M09R. It has new driver Texas Avenger. I recived new drivers to my MT09R ordered from group buy. Tonight I ‘ m going to measured lumens from new MT09R and compare with my modded MT09R from group buy.

Man that’s awesome! If possible I would like to see pics of the old and new driver. Beer

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cool man… still waiting for mine.

I suspect it will arrive soon.

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I don’t have old drivers.
I swapped oryginal from MT09R to MT03.
I can add pictures of new drivers in flashlight and alone.
How to add miniature on post??
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I found Picture of old drivers soo I add it too.

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Wow. It’s real. The spring bypass is there too… Beer

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Here you go.

From smokuxx1987:

Original driver from group buy.

New driver.


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My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos including GT 

Texas_Ace BLF Calibrated Lumen tube

 

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How can you tell the difference between the 70 and 35 version?

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I don“t have version on XHP35HI

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It’s easy hklarnoob.

Just look at the die size of the LEDs while off of course.

It’s easy to spot a 3535 LED vs a 7070 LED.

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smokuxx1987 wrote:
I don“t have version on XHP35HI

Yeah but there’s nothing I can see on the driver that says the driver is for the 70 version.

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hIKARInoob wrote:
smokuxx1987 wrote:
I don“t have version on XHP35HI

Yeah but there’s nothing I can see on the driver that says the driver is for the 70 version.


Yeah, the old xhp70 driver had lots of 7135 chips, the new one doesn’t.

At the expense of possibly looking like a fool, is it possible the drivers are interchangeable with the emitters determining the amp draw/load?

One is 12v, one is 6 volt and the MCU is 3v so I assume you have to use a different voltage divider between the 2 drivers.

I think TA said he had to tweak NarsilM to get it ramping just right, but…

I’m gonna just be quite and maybe TA will come along and explain all our questions. Smile (I showed TA this thread)

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos including GT 

Texas_Ace BLF Calibrated Lumen tube

 

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Yes they are exchangeable.

However, you would need a new 12V MCPCB.

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FET only? I really hoped it was still FET+N+1…

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No, it’s actually FET+ resistor array.

Look at all the SMD resistors on the left.

This allows for regulated output up a certain point.

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I’m curious how different this production driver from Haikelite is compared to TA’s hand built driver. Did HL change the design or try to make it cheaper/cut corners?

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos including GT 

Texas_Ace BLF Calibrated Lumen tube

 

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Interesting that they are already selling / shipping these drivers. I asked this weekend when they would be ready and they said they were not done yet. They were supposed to send the rest of the payment before they started selling these.

JasonWW wrote:
hIKARInoob wrote:
smokuxx1987 wrote:
I don“t have version on XHP35HI

Yeah but there’s nothing I can see on the driver that says the driver is for the 70 version.


Yeah, the old xhp70 driver had lots of 7135 chips, the new one doesn’t.

At the expense of possibly looking like a fool, is it possible the drivers are interchangeable with the emitters determining the amp draw/load?

One is 12v, one is 6 volt and the MCU is 3v so I assume you have to use a different voltage divider between the 2 drivers.

I think TA said he had to tweak NarsilM to get it ramping just right, but…

I’m gonna just be quite and maybe TA will come along and explain all our questions. Smile (I showed TA this thread)

The drivers are the same design, the only changes are some of the components to work correctly with the voltage change.

Since the PCB is the same the only way to tell them apart is by looking at the components.

The easiest method is to look at either the bank of resistors or the R8 resistor to the right of the MCU.

Bank:
XHP70.2 = 47ohm
XHP35 = 150ohm

R8:
xhp70.2 = 22k ohm
XHP35 = 47k ohm

There are some other component changes as well but these will be the easiest to see.

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JasonWW wrote:
I’m curious how different this production driver from Haikelite is compared to TA’s hand built driver. Did HL change the design or try to make it cheaper/cut corners?

This batch of drivers at least use my design exactly along with the exact components I used. I actually sent them the components myself to build this batch.

Now what will happen with the next batch, that I don’t know.

The pictures above look like a prototype driver or a driver that has been worked on by hand, the production line drivers should have better solder joints I assume.

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The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. --Herbert Spencer , English Philosopher (1820-1903)

Texas Avenger Driver Series

My LED Test series - XP-L2 V5  - Nichia 219C 90+ CRILatticebright "XM-L"XHP35 & PWM efficiency - XHP50 - XP-L V5 - XM-L2 U2 - XP-G3 S5  - XP-L HI V2 - Oslon Square & direct comparison to Djozz tests - Nichia 319A - Nichia 219B 9080 CRI - Nichia 219C D320 - Nichia 229AT - XHP70.2 P2 - XHP50.2 J4 - Samsung LH351D

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Well it’s been almost a month since HL told me they shipped out my replacement driver. Usually I get packages from China in about a month’ss time at most, I’ll update everyone once I get it. TA, I would ping HL about the last payment since it seems like HL has been shipping out the drivers for a while now (assuming their messages are true).

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Texas_Ace wrote:

JasonWW wrote:
hIKARInoob wrote:

Yeah but there’s nothing I can see on the driver that says the driver is for the 70 version.


At the expense of possibly looking like a fool, is it possible the drivers are interchangeable with the emitters determining the amp draw/load?

One is 12v, one is 6 volt and the MCU is 3v so I assume you have to use a different voltage divider between the 2 drivers.


The drivers are the same design, the only changes are some of the components to work correctly with the voltage change.

Hot damn, I’m not such a fool after all! Lol

What’s funny is I don’t think I’ve ever seen this MT09R driver until now. I don’t remember the row of resistors. TA, did you specifically not show any pictures of it in your driver replacement thread? Maybe I just forgot seeing a picture of it.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos including GT 

Texas_Ace BLF Calibrated Lumen tube

 

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