So the mini will come with 18 ga leads and solid copper contacts? Fully modded, right out of the box, how cool would that be? 
For the record, when I first got this Lumintop built up I used a Liito Kala 5000mAh Black 26650. It did 6.49A at the tail for 1745 lumens at start. Follow that on Koef3’s chart… count the losses.
With all that has been said between Dale and JasonWW I see that it is in agreement (basically) that the XP-L HI IN A FLASHLIGHT will be doing around 1200 lumens at 4.5 amps.
With the steady current bench power supply , that is all great to see just what current an emitter MIGHT handle , but it tells us nothing of what the emitter will do in a flashlight of any kind that I can see.
When using the bench power supply and heat sinking it with a chunk of copper or aluminum and a fan to cool the emitter , then I do not see where that will any where near replicate “real world” use in a light.
With the XP-L HI in the lights I have modded , I would say an average of 1050 to 1250 lumens is about where the mini GT and most other lights will be as a guess from prior experences with the 4.5 amps. Of course it will depend on ALL those varibles of what type springs , the cell used , other resistance points and so on , as to the final output.
djozz did all this testing back in August of 2015, by the way. With similar results to koef3. Also bench supply and cooling fans used.
so whats the ETA is there any, when will it begin to sell?
Martin said on 6-24-18 “available in a few weeks” and then later he said “in the group buy July 2018”
Should be soon! 
people on the list can order starting tomorrow
public sales may start with a week delay
Cool!
That sounds great!! Thanks for the info Martin…… 
Is it know what temp the CW & NW LED’s will be??
I seem to remember there is a 4650k xpl hi tint; hopefully it’s that.
/\ Thanks for the info. :+1:
I have been searching, but so far have come up with nothing. So if that is the NW, I wonder what the CW will be?
Also, anybody know if these lights are glued?? I hope not.
M4DM4X….
- Can you verify the tint of these lights, both NW & CW please.
- Also, will these lights be glued??
Thank you in advance for the answers…… :+1: .
i still got no answers on those questions...
will share as soon as i get them
/\ … Thank you Martin!!!
Interested
just fill out the form in the OP ;)
I am sorry, What is the OP? Where can I find the form? Thanks
I did sign up on the list but I don’t see the link that I can make my order.
OP = Original Post
Got it. Thanks.
I did already last week but what does this mean by M4D M4X wrote:
people on the list can order starting tomorrow. Where?