Massive fraud on 18650s in the Littokala Aliexpress stores!

I know mortuus, but here in Brazil there is no legit supplier of 18650. One 25R is 11usd and gearbest and so on don’t ship here, I tried AliExpress… Well you live and you learn.

I’m dragging this dispute until I can or until the mindless robots at Ali support shut me down :slight_smile:

Does anyone here knows which AE seller sells genuine Littokala batteries? Or perhaps which seller is the actual “Littokala” store??? All this fake Littokala “direct” and “official” sellers are making it impossible to diferentiate which one is the genuine Littokala store.

ssschen, what makes you think there's a “genuine” LietoKala store? :-D (pun intended)

All I see is a bunch of mendacious AliExpress sellers wanting to sell stuff. Period.

Oh! It's “LiitoKala”, not “LittoKala”. :-)

Cheers ^:)

You got me there with the spelling. In my defence, I was lazy, so I copied and pasted it from the title of this thread without even noticing!

Since AE is quite big in China, I imagine LiitoKala surely must have a presence/store on AE??

Mmmkay ssschen, let's assume there's a LiitoKala Official Store in AliExpress which is “more official” than the others (AliExpress sellers can change their store name anytime). If so, there should be any sort of reference to it in their “official” chinese website: http://www.liitokala.com.cn

The above presumption is sort of true, as if you tap/click over the lowest leftmost banner in the main page ( :-D ), you are taken here: https://liitokalahongkong.aliexpress.com/store/217753

However, this store is known to sell fakes, like the rest (and tested ;-) by myself). What is more, they even had a nice photo of Elsa Pataky in that AE page arguing her was the “LiitoKala brand CEO” and her name was Ashley Zhang. See here.

Cheers ^:)

Chang Jiang FST website appears to be this one:

http://www.firstbattery.com/product/

(note: the site is in Chinese though)

http://www.firstbattery.com/product/list-6-cn.html
(some of the 18650s listed here; clicking the battery will display some specifications and discharge graphs for each battery)

OH No ..maybe that's why my cells are fake .

I bought from liitokala not littokala

Which one has the blonde Chinese girl ? I forget ...

I wonder if she's a robot ?

Elsa Pataky. :facepalm: :} :LOVE:

:-)

Are you sure the blonde chinese girl in the photo on Liitokala page is Elsa Pataky? I thought the photo on the wiki link you provided looks vaguely familiar, so I did a few google search. I just realised she is the cop/detective in the Fast & Furious series.

Elena Neves?

Source: #264 post in this same thread

Cheers :-)

To check if there is common problem I’ve ordered tabbed Panasonic NCR18650B also from VariCore and got completly the same fake cells as from Liitokala, just the sticker was different. Famous folded/wrinkled wrapper was there, too. See the picture: VariCore on the top and original Panny on the bottom.

Note there is different font used, “:” sign is even better positioned, but it’s missing 2D barcode.

Made dicharge test along with original cell at 2A and suprisingly I’ve got higher curve and just bit less capacity at about 3250mA:

Comparing Liitokala and VariCore graphs shows they match very closely and I think they are identical. But which ones???

Any word about the new Littokala products, the Lii-PD4, Lii-PL4 and Lii-S2?

I just watched your video. After watching your video, I double checked the 4 Samsung 30Q batteries I bought from Banggood last year, and they have 3-lobe top as well.

The 7x “slightly flawed” Green Samsung 25R batteries I bought from Trisky last year on his thread here, also have 3-lobe top. Phew :smiley:

Do you have any opinions on these Black Liitokala 26650 cells from Elsa’s :smiley: Liitokala Office Store - 217753 on AE??? At US$15.88 for a pack of 4 before shipping costs, they are very appealing to me. Most importantly for us poor Aussies, this store will ship these batteries to Australia, at a very good and affordable shipping cost of only US$3.16

Is there a way to identify a cell from under the wrapper? Maybe we can find out what cells are being re-wrapped?

long discussion thread :weary:

can someone tell me if this is fake or real? im looking to get some soon.

HK LiitoKala Lii-35A 18650 3500mAh 3.7V Li-Ion Rechargeable Battery 30A

Mmm, did not noticed latest updates here. Busy with other matters.

I do not think there's any practical way to fake these cells. They're being manufactured by chinese OEM PLB (which at ∅26.7mm wrap included makes 26650 cells a little bit fatter versus other OEMS), thus they're not that expensive to start with. And then, what other OEM is manufacturing a cheaper cell with close enough characteristics and appearance?

Anything is possible, though. Meditate and praise God :-D for our cells to be always good.


Every cell has its own unique markings in the cylinder, possible it is thus. But we would need some user/reviewer collaboration to map this out.

Check the feedback reports. Bad bad bad… Seems like they are real :-D fakes.

I bought a couple Samsung INR18650-35E cells from store 3103064 months ago. Got the real thing.

They are now claiming these are “LiitoKala cells”, beware so. Paying via PayPal may be a good idea in case of not receiving what is described.

Cheers ^:)

definitely not NCR18650GA… just received mine…




tried opening one of them, no text or codes at all:

Now I’m measuring the capacity, but I have already opened a dispute (product received different from the pictures):

P.S.
I’ve seen in the user pictures on the aliexpress listing that some people received cells with 4 lobes, which are also something else.

mmh… I’ll wait to see how this dispute end and maybe I’ll do the guinea pig to see if from the other seller they are still sending genuine 35E, actually I wanted a couple of them. From this picture they don’t seem to be fake (3 lobes), but yes, the “for samsung” thing is very suspicious.

Penta lobe tops. As we were discussing above, probably Chang Jiang FST cells. They have a 3350mAh rated cell, which may perform comparable or quite close to an NCR18650GA (HKJ review).

thanks, but I had already seen the pictures at the top of the page… but honestly I don’t think these cell could match the GA… not even LG matches Sanyo’s GA and Samsung’s 35E… I doubt those much smaller companies will. And in any case they will be much cheaper, I bought this 4 lii cellsl because I had read they were GA…