*BLF LT1 Lantern Project) (updated Nov,17,2020)

Another good drawing :slight_smile:
i removed some of the lower fins, but not all of them in my original cross section, & thinned out the upper midsection fins. ( i need to update the design a bit in the mid section near the lens/globe area though & taper or smooth out the “ledge” like you did in your drawing.) some fins helps with holding grip, and the small amount of heat generated by the driver/charger/bank circuits, & retain some of the robust style. The head may need some fins for those who wish to mod their lantern for more output. I left the head very thick & solid aluminum for that are has to dissipate the most heat from the LEDs.

Nice work guys! :sunglasses: :+1:

Great work thijsco19 and zeroflow :slight_smile:
Are there any public available 3D files for the Q8 with dimensions?

This is exciting. Great work!

No fins needed for the heat but they do increase the holding grip and improve the robust styling.
However they do increase the overall size of the lantern. It will increase the height and diameter of the head.
I’ve currently used the same switch part from the original Q8 cad, if that’s still the same as the production version and they want to use it, some diameters are a bit limited.

What are the dimensions for the diffuser cup?
And the overall diameter of the top part?

I have not been diligent at following the thread.

Would it be more robust structurally if the polycarbonate were not slanted. The sloping may make fracturing at the bottom more likely. It is also possible that it will cost more to cast the slanted version. If the casting of the plastic allows a fillet/champerfing (?) on the inside for the bottom of the casting, it would also lower the fracture chance for either of the approaches. Note: it has been a very long time since my only statics/dynamics class. And I hated it at the time. I presume the slant may be an effort to improve light dispersion. If the inside is nice and reflective; will it matter?

For those viewing this as an emergency lamp, the operation has to be dead simple when an itinerant passerby simply needs it to light. Unlike the base Q8. Yes, I know most of the arguments about that, including feedback from 5 out of 5 people using the Q8.

I have seen a couple of comments about the cap not needing a heatsink. But at least one of the drawing proposals appear to have reduced the top mass. Putting the same sort of fins as the Q8 uses (or thinner and deeper) in the cap may have merit. It adds machining; but lowers the amount of Aluminum in the BOM and weight. And getting mass off the top would help with stability. In any event, fins on top would provide better heat removal. There ain’t no such thing as an over cooled LED. And less annoying to the touch. I don’t recall seeing temperatures.

I have said before; I really do not like the idea of ports for recharging or feeding phones. It is a lamp. And should (in my opinion) remain a lamp. Not a recharge center. The batteries are easily changed. Simple to carry. Hikers/backpackers here have noted that they are unlikely to haul this lamp along.

There are many many little small and inexpensive boxes to recharge phones. If you want solar recharge, get one of these boxes to go with your solar panel to recharge your second set of batteries (and your phone). The ports have a high probability (in my view) of becoming a leakage point. They will wear out. Then you need to get a tube of Silicon rubber and fill it in. I would care a lot more about having a waterproof secure light source walking around in a hurricane than knowing I could recharge my phone from it with water penetrating the open port cover. After finding the correct version of a USB cable. Whatever port connection you select; it will be wrong for some of the buyers. Spare sets of batteries are a very reasonable alternative. With the storage life of Li vs time to recharge, this would be particularly true in an emergency. And I believe many buyers are seeing this as an emergency light. Campers (e.g., next to the SUV) have a multitude of resources (like the cigarette lighter socket [or the built-in USB port] in the SUV) other than poking a cable into the lamp.

What about two groves for a “clip” at the head and the body?
The clip is a half circle lampshade to enhance light in one direction.
In use you clip it to the top, not needed to the lower part.

And Sofirn offers the Lampshade Clip for extra costs

Plastics are usually easier to mould - and therefore cheaper - if they are slightly tapered. That way, they eject from the mould more cleanly. A straight up-and-down shape can get stuck in the mould by friction, because it has to slide out instead of just falling away.

When it comes to fracturing, the lantern design has a centre bolt which will hold off any vertical loads. If you apply a heavy load sideways, directly to the polycarbonate, nothing will save it, tapered or not.

As to the rest: ultimately, DBSAR decides. I’m personally quite happy with the way this project seems to be going.

Hi, I think you may have missed my previous post (#2233). I’m also interested in one. Thanks

Looks like this thread has lost a lot of momentum. I hope the project itself is still moving. :question:

Hi piyoman, if you carefully read post 2236 you will find that you are number 937 on the interest list. The list in the OP has not been updated in awhile, (last interest number is 908 on that list) but be assured you are on there.

The master user lists are actually google docs I maintain, and can be viewed by most folks, but for some reason not all. I haven’t figured that one out, that is why I periodically send DBSAR a text version and he updated the OP.

interest list sorted by entry number

interest list sorted by user names

The user name list often as the last few entries not sorted in, so if you don’t find your name in alphabetical order just look at the end of the list.

Don’t we have some LEDS with better R9 and rosier tint @3000-4000K?

Do we have some price estimations?

Two random ideas:

-Would be great if the lantern could be used with 21700 to get close to 20000 mAh. A little sleeve could be used for 18650.

- Foldable legs so the lantern could be more stable on a uneven surface (which happens often in camping)

It has an 1/4” tripod mount, foldable legs would only make it cheaper and more complicated.

Right. I’ll have to buy and carry a tripod.

I’d love if we had even a rough price estimate. Are we talking less than 100, 100, 200, 200+? It will greatly affect how many I buy. If it’s <100, I’m probably in for an additional one or two on top of the one I’ve reserved. (Don’t add me to the list, just making commentary.)

Its still going strong! were just waiting for the engineers as Barry mentioned to me, as they are working on the design. Also still in wait of the driver PCB design.

If there is still enough metal left in the tube its possible, but not sure if the Q8 body design has enough metal to allow the bigger cell size.
a snap on place base may be in the works for added to the accessory-kit that is planned once we get the lantern into production.

that’s agreat news ! :+1:

DBSAR, what are the dimensions of the diffuser cup? For making a more accurate design.