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Count me in. I don’t know why I can’t see my name in the list. I subscribed to this project months ago.

Jaded, if you search on “Search Within Thread” > Author, you will see that this is your first post listed there.

But pepinfaxera or TK will put you on the interest list on the next update Wink

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Is that so? I’ve been away for some time. I really can’t remember, but no matter…Better late than never, I guess.

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Is that so? I’ve been away for some time. I really can’t remember, but no matter…Better late than never, I guess.

You’re still on time to catch this “train”, don’t worry Wink Welcome back!

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Yeah nobody will be late for this one for sure…

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Yeah nobody will be late for this one for sure…

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I am interested in two of these.

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I am interested in two of these.

Welcome to BLF. LOL

You’ll see your name on the next update.

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Hello All,

 

BLING BLING BLUE BLING !

 

After reading the preliminary report of the soon to be released upgraded Emisar D4S, I’m absolutely thrilled at the addition of the BLUE “find me” marker LEDs surrounding the main LEDs.

Since tritium is so expensive, GITD fades so quickly, would it be feasible to copycat/incorporate the blue marker design inside the head of the FW3A? To easily locate the light in dark conditions?

 

I would die happy (hopefully) if it were a possibility....

 

here is a link

 

https://imgur.com/wNfpJcf

 

 

 

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.....and another idea..... following the same “upgrade path” ideas from the Emisar D4 (18650) to the upcoming D4S (26650 cell)

 

a slightly larger version that optimally fits the excellent Samsung 48G 4,800 mAh 21700 cell for at least a 50% runtime increase over 18650s , while minimizing/avoiding a size/weight penalty of a much larger 26650 cell...

 

im a monster runtime fanatic and this would put a permagrin on my face...

 

 

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Hello All,


BLING BLING BLING BLING CYAN BLING !


After reading the preliminary report of the soon to be released D4S, I’m absolutely thrilled at the addition of the cyan “find me” marker LEDs surrounding the main LEDs. Since tritium is so expensive, GITD fades so quickly, would it be feasible to copycat/incorporate the cyan marker design inside the head of the FW3A? 


I would die happy (hopefully) if it were a possibility….



Can you explain what your refering to? Maybe a link?
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Ocelot wrote:

Hello All,


BLING BLING BLING BLING CYAN BLING !


After reading the preliminary report of the soon to be released D4S, I’m absolutely thrilled at the addition of the cyan “find me” marker LEDs surrounding the main LEDs. Since tritium is so expensive, GITD fades so quickly, would it be feasible to copycat/incorporate the cyan marker design inside the head of the FW3A? 


I would die happy (hopefully) if it were a possibility….

Can you explain what your refering to? Maybe a link?

The blue LEDs of the Emisar D4S, I guess!

EDIT: From this post : https://imgur.com/wNfpJcf

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Exactly, Mascaratum B,  (great many thanks for the assist !!)

 

the Blue (look cyan to my eye) “auxiliary” LEDs inside the Emisar D4S! It’s a fantastic idea IMHO. 

Similar in concept to a lighted tailcap switch, an always-on option for locating the light in the dark.

 

Here is the link, witness the first photo...

 

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/61509

 

http://toykeeper.net/torches/emisar-d4s/full/auxleds-direct.jpg

 

https://imgur.com/wNfpJcf

 

 

 

 

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Okay, thanks. I hadn’t heard of the D4S. No one sent me the weekly newsletter of all the new models. Lol

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Okay, thanks. I hadn’t heard of the D4S. No one sent me the weekly newsletter of all the new models. Lol

So many projects happening at the same time, it’s hard to keep it up with all of them TiredFacepalm
Lol

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…..and another idea….. following the same “upgrade path” ideas from the Emisar D4 (18650) to the upcoming D4S (26650 cell)


a slightly larger version that optimally fits the excellent Samsung 48G 4,800 mAh 21700 cell for at least a 50% runtime increase over 18650s , while minimizing/avoiding a size/weight penalty of a much larger 26650 cell…


im a monster runtime fanatic and this would put a permagrin on my face…


 

Hum, that would be nice, probably…but please let’s put this first 18650 project out of the factory Big Smile
Then it would be nice to have the different versions (copper, TI, …) and some 1 led versions and also the 18350 versions… There are so many ideias to explore for this project further! But now, let’s cross fingers for this 18650 version to be out WinkThumbs Up

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Jason WW,

 

First much gratitude and respect for your active (leadership) role in a diversity of projects here. IMHO you are a strong and valued asset to the BLF community and deserve recognition as such. I applaud your contributions and efforts. I’m very grateful for MascaratumB for catching my reference, otherwise the point of my post would have been missed.

 

Emisar added 2 major design elements to their evolutionary upgrade from the D4 to the D4S, most notably the BLUE marker always on find me LEDs inside the head and a larger body to incorporate a huge 26650 cell in place of the D4 18650 cell.

 

Since it has been so long since original concept to build, it is a very appealing idea to follow Emisar’s lead and introduce the same upgrades, perhaps as a separate model,

 

[FW3B perhaps, B For Blue, Bigger Battery]

 

Thank you for all that you have done, and continue to do for the BLF community.

 

 

Cheers

 

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I’d be interested in 1 please.

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I am interested in two of these.

Welcome to BLF. LOL

Thanks. Been around CPF for … a long time … and happened across this a few weeks ago, finally signing up.

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You’ll see your name on the next update.

Cool. Got a feel for how volunteer efforts go so I’m patient.
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Already mid-August and this light still isn’t ready for production.

I wonder if these will ship before the end of the year. Seems to be awfully slow.

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Already mid-August and this light still isn’t ready for production.

I wonder if these will ship before the end of the year. Seems to be awfully slow.


Sho nuff, but Lumintop has been pretty busy. They recently released the ODF30, the ODL20C, GT Mini and GT70. I’m guessing they may not have a lot of resources right now to work on the FW3A. It seems like once they devote some people to it, the project is capable of moving very quickly.

We are approaching the busy season in China. I also hope we can get these lights this year.

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Already mid-August and this light still isn’t ready for production.

I wonder if these will ship before the end of the year. Seems to be awfully slow.


Hey, if I was in Lumintop HQ the FW3A would not be my first priority…
Look : the GT is a best-seller but is quite pricey for the average flashaolic… so what do we do ? We make a MINI GT, which has nothing revolutionary, a basic FET driver with a free firmware, an XP-L HI, a SMO reflector and VOILA a nice pocket thrower with a familiar design so everyone wants it…
OTHO, the FW3A gives us some problem because, you know, it’s a bit tricky to make an insulated aluminum tube that doesn’t wear with time…

Anyway, I’m sure I’m not the only one who is annoyed by all this waiting time…
I might end NOT buying it because the novelty has faded…

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JasonWW wrote:
Firelight2 wrote:
Already mid-August and this light still isn’t ready for production.

I wonder if these will ship before the end of the year. Seems to be awfully slow.


Sho nuff, but Lumintop has been pretty busy. They recently released the ODF30, the ODL20C, GT Mini and GT70. I’m guessing they may not have a lot of resources right now to work on the FW3A. It seems like once they devote some people to it, the project is capable of moving very quickly.

We are approaching the busy season in China. I also hope we can get these lights this year.

I just wonder if all those lights have a +1500 (near 2000?) interests list on them, or eventually a close number of buyers…

I do see they have to match the competition of other brands, but…almost 2000 units (despite it’s cheap price) must mean something!!
I am sure that the hundred thousands of people that participates on forums and watches YouTube flashlight’s reviews would be interested in having something like the FW3A!

Just my point!

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MascaratumB wrote:
I just wonder if all those lights have a +1500 (near 2000?) interests list on them, or eventually a close number of buyers…

I do see they have to match the competition of other brands, but…almost 2000 units (despite it’s cheap price) must mean something!!

Used to work for a small manufacturer as a designer. We did short runs of our parts in house – mostly prototypes and high-urgency components – but mostly bought from machine shops and sheet metal houses. I was quite frequently reminded that as many hours as I would put into designing and documenting a part as a design drawing, a vendor would then have to put a similar effort into a production drawing specific to their equipment, run prototypes, then optimize their own workflow so as to balance setups verses delivery schedules. As a smaller outfit, we ended up back of the line and/or buying larger quantities than were ideal at times just to get parts made at all or with a predictable delivery date.

I don’t know what Lumintop’s production volumes are like, but I suspect that a run of ~2000 is on the low end for a custom design with so many unknowns relative to their own doubtlessly higher-volume products.

Then again, I only heard about the FW3A about two months ago and signed up … yesterday … so I’ve not been anticipating for anywhere near as long as everyone else.

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Ocelot wrote:

…..and another idea….. following the same “upgrade path” ideas from the Emisar D4 (18650) to the upcoming D4S (26650 cell)


 


a slightly larger version that optimally fits the excellent Samsung 48G 4,800 mAh 21700 cell for at least a 50% runtime increase over 18650s , while minimizing/avoiding a size/weight penalty of a much larger 26650 cell…


 


im a monster runtime fanatic and this would put a permagrin on my face…


 


 

I for one would settle for the basic version coming out first Smile

I don’t think a 21700 version is realistic without a significant redesign

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Ocelot wrote:
BLING BLING BLUE BLING !

Here is the link, witness the first photo…

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/61509

http://toykeeper.net/torches/emisar-d4s/full/auxleds-direct.jpg

Hi. I’m the one who took that picture. I also wrote the code for both the D4S and FW3A.

Ocelot wrote:
After reading the preliminary report of the soon to be released upgraded Emisar D4S…

It’s no longer soon-to-be-released; it started shipping a couple weeks ago.

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… would it be feasible to copycat/incorporate the blue marker design inside the head of the FW3A?

Nope.

The D4S has three power channels:

  • 3×7135 (0 to ~400 lm, regulated)
  • FET (~400 to ~6000 lm)
  • aux LEDs

The FW3A also has three power channels:

  • 1×7135 (0 to ~160 lm, regulated)
  • 7×7135 (~160 to ~1100 lm, regulated)
  • FET (~1100 to ~3000 lm)

Adding aux LEDs would mean redesigning the driver, but we don’t have someone to do that any more. And redesigning the MCPCB. And it would mean sacrificing some other feature to free up a pin… or switching to a bigger MCU. These things aren’t going to happen before release.

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a slightly larger version that optimally fits the excellent Samsung 48G 4,800 mAh 21700 cell … FW3B perhaps, B For Blue, Bigger Battery

Also nope. That’s a complete host redesign, which isn’t the planned direction after this project. The FW3A is aluminum, FW3B would be brass, FW3C would be copper, FW3T for titanium…

If it were up to me, I’d make the next one a single-emitter model with 18350 or 16340. Basically a clone of the Olight S-Mini, with better emitter choices and fancier firmware.

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Anyway, I’m sure I’m not the only one who is annoyed by all this waiting time…

Me too.

I hear Lumintop has CAD files for proto3 though, and is working on manufacturing it. In theory, this is the final sample. So hopefully that can get approved without any further issues and then production can start.

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The FW3A is aluminum, FW3B would be brass, FW3C would be copper, FW3T for titanium…

Whoa! What is the timeframe for those releases after the FW3A?

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huey18 wrote:
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The FW3A is aluminum, FW3B would be brass, FW3C would be copper, FW3T for titanium…

Whoa! What is the timeframe for those releases after the FW3A?

Sometime before the next manned mission to Mars.

… probably.

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Already mid-August and this light still isn’t ready for production.

I wonder if these will ship before the end of the year. Seems to be awfully slow.


Sho nuff, but Lumintop has been pretty busy. They recently released the ODF30, the ODL20C, GT Mini and GT70. I’m guessing they may not have a lot of resources right now to work on the FW3A. It seems like once they devote some people to it, the project is capable of moving very quickly.

They are also doing some special runs for Massdrop in the AA tool and AAA tool configurations.

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Anyway, I’m sure I’m not the only one who is annoyed by all this waiting time… I might end NOT buying it because the novelty has faded…

Yeah, a lot of water has flowed under the bridge in the last year and 4 months since this project started

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A single emitter for the next version would be great. I’d still prefer 18650 though. Nonetheless, it’s very premature. I’m still looking forward to this one. I think it will be worth the wait.

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