Maxtoch XSWORD L2K - another laser thrower

I won’t be surprised if the Maxtoch XSWORD L2K is made like the The Acebeam W10 (review) which uses a LEP + convex lens

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Wow. LEP is crazy looking :smiley:

cd/mm2 is not really a unit. lm/mm2 is. Knowing how many lumens per mm2 an emitter gives off tells you how focused it is/how easy it is to focus.

cd/mm2 on the led makes no sense because the candela doesn’t depend only on the led. It depends on the rest of the light as well.

EDIT: 50% of the time I’m right every time.

Actually luminance [cd/mm^2] is a unit. It’s also the only unit related to light that the human eye can actuall determine. Lumens and lux cannot be accurately determined by the human eye (only by comparison to another light source). Luminance is how bright a light source looks when you look directly into it (for example the sun has a very high luminance).

Is this your opinion of the established unit of luminance (cd/mm^2)?

Luminance of a bare die does make sense. A 4 mm^2 die with 200 cd/mm^2 would have 800cd above it.

I am apparently misinformed. Sorry about that.

That said, I don’t think we are using cd/mm2 correctly here. I’m gonna read over the wikipedia page a few times.

EDIT: I see. cd/mm2 is directly related to lm/mm2, but it’s more useful because it can also be used for domed leds, for example. Am I right?

Luminance is the intensity of a light source. It is the same from any angle.

If you multiply it with pi (3.14) you get very close to the lumens/mm^2.

We are using it correctly. No need to check. Check out Endermans calculators. They will show you how it all comes together.

This XSword actually does use the Laser Excited Phosphor technology, and it does do 1Mcd for 2000M, as tested by a friend of mine. The run time is due to a low 1.31A tail current ftom 2 x 18650’s. The beam is wickedly tight and looks greenish in the air but the hot spot on target is a warm white that is decent. Zero spill or aura, beam is like a fat laser… epic pencil beam thrower. Can’t wait to play with one of these! Lol

Only 1.3A draw for 1MCD? That sounds like dream. But why 2x18650 configuration? Isn’t 1x18650 configuration enough?

Will it have zoomie mode or it will have fixed beam?

It is a fixed beam aspheric, the light exists and samples are out with reviews about to show up.

Maxtoch builds a majority of it’s lights for Military use and hunters. A two cell battery tube is easy to mount on a rifle and the buck driver allows longer run times, which is everything in the target field.

The numbers are real, testing is being done and beam shots exist. They say 500 lumens, although I’ve seen testing put this at an even lower number, nonetheless the candela and throw numbers are real.

The tint was set for illumination through fog and/or smoke, Police, Fire Departments, Search and Rescue, Military…. and it Does penetrate fog and low misty rain conditions. I know one of the reviewers and his testing has been done in these conditions with amazing results!

Translated from polish to english :

“I am currently waiting for a short tube for the flashlight, so the size will be reduced.

The color in the pictures came out green but in reality it looks like with XP-G3, so there is no tragedy, although it is not ideal”.

Source (with a few beamshots)

Uff… I like that green tint.

Yes Polish guy showed long distance pictures and it seems it has some serious throw…

Things I am concerned about:

- amount of light on classic hunting distances (30 - 150 meters). If intensity will be to high on high mode(only mode that most hunters prefer especially for stand hunting) it will not be good also if beam size will be just enough for rabbit hunting well it will not be good either.

- recoil prof?

  • parts support… So they offer limited lifetime warranty after one year of warranty? That is good to know but who would send broken light to China, pay them for fixing, pay return shipping, potential Custums problems…

Once when they master zoomie function this could easily become something I dream my whole life.

Edit: 350$ is the price with additional short 1x18650 tube as Polish guy mentioned.

Looks like LEP is gradually becoming mainstream for throwers. I still don’t like any green in the beam. I would rather have blue or yellow. pure white laser would be my ideal. Might buy this though if the price is decent.

Looks like, at 100 yds, you can see about a 5’ area with the central 3’ being pretty intense. Medium or low modes should be sufficient at this distance to see well enough to shoot a rabbit.

I have Xsword.
It is laser light, the tint is greenish even without green filter.
The range is better than from MF04……
Tommorow I add some picture.

Blue laser emitters typically have a higher Vf than 4.2V, which would require a boost driver and more inefficiency if it were to use a single cell.

:+1:

Thanks for info. Now I get it. Buck driver can work on one cell right? That Polish guy awaits for 1x18650 tube for his Maxtoch.

Yes… I was afraid of that… Now imagine 200kg boar on 50 meters. I would only lid her nose :slight_smile: That why zoomie mode is next good thing they got to work on.

So this will be mostly for small game hunting with the need of cycle through modes and sometimes that means that the game will have more chance to run for their lives.

Any chance we can get that laser modules and try our own creations? Is some of you guys able to get them. Group buy or something?

So you are that guy… :beer: