Acebeam X70 - 40000 lm - 8*18650 - Active fan cooling

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Will those 18650 run on its knees or ? i feel sorry for them almost Sad Still curious how the old proto with the 3 fans on 40k how much runtime they got etc.. guess we will never find out.

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Will those 18650 run on its knees or ?

I don’t know what you’re saying. Is that a typo?

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Will those 18650 run on its knees or ?
I don’t know what you’re saying. Is that a typo?

hm okay, yea i meant will that push the batteries limit to max or is there still room to push more lumens if heat is not an issue?

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This arguably is enough close range flood for anyone. No need at all for a vn version. I think the lumens race is over. There is such a thing as too much light. From here onwards refinements in cooling would be the go. The turn off once again is the small throw. Its just not enough by a long shot for this kind of output. These lights come off as boring. I know why noone is making these lumen monsters throw far, because the head will be too big.

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mortuus wrote:
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Will those 18650 run on its knees or ?
I don’t know what you’re saying. Is that a typo?

hm okay, yea i meant will that push the batteries limit to max or is there still room to push more lumens if heat is not an issue?


The VTC6 data sheet says 15A continous and 30A if you reduce output when they reach 80°C.

Max. discharge current vs. time:
30A-40A less than 40 seconds
55A less than 19 seconds
80A less than 6 seconds
(Never discharge above 80°C)

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This arguably is enough close range flood for anyone. No need at all for a vn version. I think the lumens race is over. There is such a thing as too much light. From here onwards refinements in cooling would be the go. The turn off once again is the small throw. Its just not enough by a long shot for this kind of output. These lights come off as boring. I know why noone is making these lumen monsters throw far, because the head will be too big.

Well i somewhat agree, since this kind of lights are so big they should make them a little bigger but improve the cooling capacity it would only make the lights of this size even better.

thanks jasonww for info.

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Acebeam’s X70 page has been updated.

Wow! That’s all I can say…

X70

Describing Acebeam’s new X70 as “bright” is like saying a hurricane or typhoon is “windy”.

60,000 lumens
1,115 meter distance
Single Cree XHP35 HI
12 Cree XHP70.2 emitters
Battery pack – 8 Sony VTC6 18650
Integral fan carry handle – 1× 18650
18,000 lumens for 50 minutes
25,000 lumens for 8 minutes
60,000 lumens for 55 seconds
311,000cd peak beam intensity
Charging time is 3 hours
Waterproof to 10 meters
Temperature controlled output


OK.
So,why the title of this thread remains saying 40000Lm?
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When will they start shipping out the Acebeam X70 flashlight?

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I’m disappointed the X70 doesn’t have a Firefly mode like the 4 lumens on the X65. Sadly, the lowest mode is now 625 lumens.

The two most utilized modes on our X65 are Firefly and Turbo Max.

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I’m disappointed the X70 doesn’t have a Firefly mode like the 4 lumens on the X65. Sadly, the lowest mode is now 625 lumens.

The two most utilized modes on our X65 are Firefly and Turbo Max.

yes weird , but a light this size u cant expect firefly mode, even my x9r has lowest 200lumens…

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+1000.

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mortuus wrote:
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I’m disappointed the X70 doesn’t have a Firefly mode like the 4 lumens on the X65. Sadly, the lowest mode is now 625 lumens.

The two most utilized modes on our X65 are Firefly and Turbo Max.

yes weird , but a light this size u cant expect firefly mode, even my x9r has lowest 200lumens…


The X65 and X70 are the same size, and the X65 has a 4 lumen Firefly.
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The MS12 has sidelights that are probably 20 lumens at their lowest setting and Turbo can run for over 5 minutes indoors!
I’ll probably wait for Imalent to hit 80k.

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I have not heard anyone suggest that the handle was made out of plastic. Only the actual fan itself is made of plastic, everything else should be metal.

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Btw, here is the air flow directions.

It looks as if the air is simply blown across the exterior surface.

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This is just a quick fix to get in front of Imalent.

Surely 2 sliding doors in the head would get heat out more efficiently and not look a c***.

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Imalent could decide to put also a fan in a handle, with better results than Acebeam,as the pumped air would blow direct onto the special cooling heatsink which there is in the head.

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Oh i thought it was the other way around, that “thing” is gonna blow the hot air out.. then it means hot air will blow in your face direction like a hair dryer ? hm…

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Yeah, if you wear glasses on a cold night they will steam up lol

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then it means hot air will blow in your face direction like a hair dryer ? hm…

It means the hot air will try to blow down towards your feet, but might blow on your thigh.

The handle is for carrying like a suitcase. I don’t know why you think it’s near your face. ???

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JasonWW wrote:
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then it means hot air will blow in your face direction like a hair dryer ? hm…

It means the hot air will try to blow down towards your feet, but might blow on your thigh.

The handle is for carrying like a suitcase. I don’t know why you think it’s near your face. ???

well talk about clumsy light then, but if u want hold it normally then? the button is on the side the hot air is supposed to come out right or do they expect everyone to use the light by carry it like a suitcase seems weird to me.

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mortuus wrote:
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then it means hot air will blow in your face direction like a hair dryer ? hm…

It means the hot air will try to blow down towards your feet, but might blow on your thigh.

The handle is for carrying like a suitcase. I don’t know why you think it’s near your face. ???

well talk about clumsy light then, but if u want hold it normally then? the button is on the side the hot air is supposed to come out right or do they expect everyone to use the light by carry it like a suitcase seems weird to me.


Obviously the whole handle thing was a last minute redesign.

Remember that hot air does not come out of the light because it doesn’t appear to go into it. It just blows on one side of it. I doubt you will feel any hot air on your hand.

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seery wrote:
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Remember that hot air does not come out of the light because it doesn’t appear to go into it. It just blows on one side of it.


Do we know this to be fact or is this speculation?

This is based on the data we have which is not a lot. This is why I said “it doesn’t appear to go into it”.

Looking at the pictures it appears the light has been closed up of all holes. We need more pictures for confirmation.

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Look here, see the lack of holes?

I would like to see a better angle, but so far it looks sealed up.

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The above pic is the first version with 3 fans in it.

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seery wrote:
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The above pic is the first version with 3 fans in it.

All the pics and videos I’ve seen of the early 3-fan variants had completely different knurling on the handle.

That’s why I found that pic interesting.


Okay, the head is the early version with the 3 fans. I have not paid any attention to battery tubes.

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cant be right if the head has no holes, the hot air must exit somehow… i dont get it they also dont post more pics on their website also which is weird since the thing is official now anyways…

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I don’t think it needs any holes if the external heatsink fins are blown with external fan. The MCPCB in the head will have full contact with the external heatsink.

cool i'll see you when you get there

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cant be right if the head has no holes, the hot air must exit somehow… i dont get it they also dont post more pics on their website also which is weird since the thing is official now anyways…

It would be great if they routed the air through the inside of the light. They could have it contact so much more surface area and be really efficient.

At this point in time it looks like they abandoned the integrated active cooling, like Olight did with the X9, and just added a fan to the outside.

I’m sure we will see new pics soon we just have to be patient.

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8号就发货了,外观不可能改变了。X70是为了针对MS12赶工干出来的,肯定会有升级版 X70GT

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