That would be great, if they’re open to the suggestion.
TK said earlier in the thread that it’s probably too late to request a different emitter. This would be a DIY swap – either reflow yourself, or hope someone who offers that as a service picks up the SST-20. Mountain Electronics already carries the SST-40, so it seems likely enough.
The LH351D has higher output and efficiency than the SST-20, but a considerably larger emitter area, giving it less throw.
True. I knew the poll results had been passed along, so I guess that’s a bit of a blind wish on my part.
I suppose I’ll wait and see what I think of the light in hand. If I’m not quite happy with whichever emitters are offered, the cost of buying an SST-20 triple board looks pretty reasonable.
On that topic, how does one order this combo on Kaidomain? It looks like I have to add 1 emitter and board, which appears to be priced a bit higher than buying those parts separately (reflow service included?), and then add 2 additional emitters to my cart.
On that topic, how does one order this combo on Kaidomain? It looks like I have to add 1 emitter and board, which appears to be priced a bit higher than buying those parts separately (reflow service included?), and then add 2 additional emitters to my cart.
On that topic, how does one order this combo on Kaidomain? It looks like I have to add 1 emitter and board, which appears to be priced a bit higher than buying those parts separately (reflow service included?), and then add 2 additional emitters to my cart.
Hmm…I guess that must be it. When viewing the triple option on the page specific to the 4000K emitter, I didn’t think the price seemed right – $6.99 for a populated triple board, versus $11.72 buying the pieces separately.
Oh! Thank you so much. I do what I can, but I don't dedicate much time to it, And language problem, thanks to ToyKeeper who corrects my mistakes. Why do I do this? I suppose, in the absence of The Miller, someone had to continue. Greetings.
Oh! Thank you so much. I do what I can, but I don’t dedicate much time to it, And language problem, thanks to ToyKeeper who corrects my mistakes. Why do I do this?
I suppose, in the absence of The Miller, someone had to continue.
Greetings.
As Jerommel said pepinfaxera…. your doing a fantastic job!! . Thank You!! ..
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.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
This seems to be getting so late, with such seeming lack of interest from Lumintop.
Last I heard was that two (yes just two) proto. v3s had been sent to TLF designers. So far with zero feedback AFAIK.
If I had to predict, I’d say it is as dead as a Dodo, Lumintop will have taken whatever knowledge they thought valuable.
Meanwhile the world has moved on, emitters and decent drivers are much more sophisticated. And triples and quads are rather old-fashioned and limited in so many ways.
If I was a Lumintop product designer with ambition, I’d probably make the same decision, move forwards, not back, and Can this one.
Perhaps they won’t, officially, because of “losing face”, but that’s what I think I see happening. The previous project (GT) probably burned them off, considering how badly they handled it regarding delivery. Perhaps more to do with un co-ordinated BLF people than them.
But they did eventually deliver and kept their promises. An honourable company. If and when they are prepared to accept my orders, I will be at the head of the queue. Unless the thing is just so out-dated that I don’t want it anymore.
Edgy Western design ideas, and freaky drivers, component and LED selections, put into a race-tuned body, may have just been too much for them, and I do think the moment has now passed.
Perhaps I am wrong though, nevertheless if it ever happens it will be well out of date (and frankly a mechanical monstrosity which I doubt will ever be reliable)
So sad for the BLF and TLF people who put such hard work into the mechanical, driver and firmware designs. I do sincerely hope that I have got this wrong, and it will all become perfect.
Lumintop, if you have any soul, refresh this thing, make it, ship it, even if you lose money on every one, you would be respected just for doing this. Otherwise, not so much.
I received the new prototype a few days ago and Fritz too. At the moment, I’m still traveling abroad and have not got around to testing it thoroughly. As soon as that is feasible, there is again a more detailed report from me in the right thread.
Has anybody seen any updates in the last week or so on TLF?
Using Google Translate, I see that Cawi said he and Fritz had received a v3 prototype 2 weeks ago, but Cawi was traveling internationally, and I’m not sure how active Fritz has been in the discussion, or if there is more than the two threads I’ve found there about the light.
Tom Tom wrote:
nevertheless if it ever happens it will be well out of date (and frankly a mechanical monstrosity which I doubt will ever be reliable)
It won’t be out of date until Zebralight or some other company with a more sophisticated driver design decides to match the UI features. Even then, the price difference leaves a pretty compelling appeal to making the efficiency sacrifice that linear drivers accept.
….The previous project (GT) probably burned them off…
Lumintop, if you have any soul, refresh this thing, make it, ship it, even if you lose money on every one, you would be respected just for doing this. Otherwise, not so much.
What a genius you are! Acknowledge a potential reason for them not being on board, suggest they burn themselves again, regardless, just so you can get a light.
That’s what this is really about isn’t it? You want a light, thought it would be ready by now so instead of showing patience you get all butt hurt and come on here sulking about it.
Tom Tom might be in a downer mood. We should just let him be. We all get this way sometimes.
We’ve probably noticed that lots of folks just like to vent on the forum. It’s not helpful or constructive to any of us, but it helps them to get things off their chest. You just have to roll with it and pay no attention.
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Meanwhile the world has moved on, emitters and decent drivers are much more sophisticated. And triples and quads are rather old-fashioned and limited in so many ways.
What new emitters and drivers? Why are triples and quads outdated?
Tom Tom wrote:
Perhaps I am wrong though, nevertheless if it ever happens it will be well out of date (and frankly a mechanical monstrosity which I doubt will ever be reliable)
Why would it be a “mechanical monstrosity”? What is different – and inherently less reliable – about the FW3A as we’ve seen it so far?
I have Faith that this Flashlight will be Built to the Best Specs posted by everyone involved before the Holidays! I’m still in for 2 and will probably wish that I had put down 4 after I get One in my hands.
I’d be willing to Bet it will happen soon and when it does it’ll be Quick!
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Interested in repairing my JetBeam TC-R1, (I’m lacking knowledge and a Novice) Wires broken between LED and Double Stacked Boards below. I soldered New wire to LED (Brass LED Base is loose, not glued or secured). 1 wire is Broken just above the top of the
True. I knew the poll results had been passed along, so I guess that’s a bit of a blind wish on my part.
I suppose I’ll wait and see what I think of the light in hand. If I’m not quite happy with whichever emitters are offered, the cost of buying an SST-20 triple board looks pretty reasonable.
On that topic, how does one order this combo on Kaidomain? It looks like I have to add 1 emitter and board, which appears to be priced a bit higher than buying those parts separately (reflow service included?), and then add 2 additional emitters to my cart.
Do you mean like this?
http://kaidomain.com/Triple-SST-20-LED-Emitter-with-20mm-x-1mm-Copper-PCB-Parallel-w-optics?search=sst-20
@pepinfaxera
Wow, thanks for the work!
Hmm…I guess that must be it. When viewing the triple option on the page specific to the 4000K emitter, I didn’t think the price seemed right – $6.99 for a populated triple board, versus $11.72 buying the pieces separately.
Thanks.
That triple board is a good deal even if you just want single emitters for other projects (assuming you want multiples of three).
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I am in for one.
Please add me for 2 lights
thank you
Oh! Thank you so much.
I do what I can, but I don't dedicate much time to it,
And language problem, thanks to ToyKeeper who corrects my mistakes.
Why do I do this?
I suppose, in the absence of The Miller, someone had to continue.
Greetings.
Sorry for my bad English
(google translator) , (https://www.deepl.com/translator)
Thank You!! ..
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
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This seems to be getting so late, with such seeming lack of interest from Lumintop.
Last I heard was that two (yes just two) proto. v3s had been sent to TLF designers. So far with zero feedback AFAIK.
If I had to predict, I’d say it is as dead as a Dodo, Lumintop will have taken whatever knowledge they thought valuable.
Meanwhile the world has moved on, emitters and decent drivers are much more sophisticated. And triples and quads are rather old-fashioned and limited in so many ways.
If I was a Lumintop product designer with ambition, I’d probably make the same decision, move forwards, not back, and Can this one.
Perhaps they won’t, officially, because of “losing face”, but that’s what I think I see happening. The previous project (GT) probably burned them off, considering how badly they handled it regarding delivery. Perhaps more to do with un co-ordinated BLF people than them.
But they did eventually deliver and kept their promises. An honourable company. If and when they are prepared to accept my orders, I will be at the head of the queue. Unless the thing is just so out-dated that I don’t want it anymore.
Edgy Western design ideas, and freaky drivers, component and LED selections, put into a race-tuned body, may have just been too much for them, and I do think the moment has now passed.
Perhaps I am wrong though, nevertheless if it ever happens it will be well out of date (and frankly a mechanical monstrosity which I doubt will ever be reliable)
So sad for the BLF and TLF people who put such hard work into the mechanical, driver and firmware designs. I do sincerely hope that I have got this wrong, and it will all become perfect.
Lumintop, if you have any soul, refresh this thing, make it, ship it, even if you lose money on every one, you would be respected just for doing this. Otherwise, not so much.
Proto 3, it’s supposed to be final proto.
Once approved, start production.
The project is alive and close to completion.
Greetings.
.
Sorry for my bad English
(google translator) , (https://www.deepl.com/translator)
Well, aren’t you a bowl full of sunshine!
“Facts don’t care about your feelings.”
~Ben Shapiro
If I understand correctly, Lumintop is waiting on us, not the other way around. They made the prototypes and are just waiting for feedback.
I nominate Tom Tom for Motivational Speaker of The Year!
“Facts don’t care about your feelings.”
~Ben Shapiro
Has anybody seen any updates in the last week or so on TLF?
Using Google Translate, I see that Cawi said he and Fritz had received a v3 prototype 2 weeks ago, but Cawi was traveling internationally, and I’m not sure how active Fritz has been in the discussion, or if there is more than the two threads I’ve found there about the light.
It won’t be out of date until Zebralight or some other company with a more sophisticated driver design decides to match the UI features. Even then, the price difference leaves a pretty compelling appeal to making the efficiency sacrifice that linear drivers accept.
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
Texas Lumens Flashlights / M4D M4X Deals : sign up - save $$$$
Rudeness Level _ mΩ _ {width:70%} _ LightWiki _ LED Tint Chart
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Tom Tom, triples and quads are old fashioned and limited? How so? I must be WAY behind the times.
What a genius you are! Acknowledge a potential reason for them not being on board, suggest they burn themselves again, regardless, just so you can get a light.
That’s what this is really about isn’t it? You want a light, thought it would be ready by now so instead of showing patience you get all butt hurt and come on here sulking about it.
Grow a pair.
Tom Tom might be in a downer mood. We should just let him be. We all get this way sometimes.
We’ve probably noticed that lots of folks just like to vent on the forum. It’s not helpful or constructive to any of us, but it helps them to get things off their chest. You just have to roll with it and pay no attention.
Texas Ace Lumen Tube and JoshK Sphere calibrated with Maukka lights
Click this to go to signature links. I'm still around, just not reading many new threads.
If this is still active I’m interested in one if we are still using the +90 CRI Samsung LH351D emitters.
What new emitters and drivers? Why are triples and quads outdated?
Why would it be a “mechanical monstrosity”? What is different – and inherently less reliable – about the FW3A as we’ve seen it so far?
@Toykeeper
Cawi posted at 20 September that a lamp arrived.
But no pic, no first impression.
Did you got your 3th prototype?
To FW3A Team, Please put me down for 3. DarkerInSol Thank you
No, it seems only two were made and Neal sent them to Fritz and Cawi. I don’t know why they haven’t posted anything yet.
Because that makes so much sense, Neal
I have Faith that this Flashlight will be Built to the Best Specs posted by everyone involved before the Holidays! I’m still in for 2 and will probably wish that I had put down 4 after I get One in my hands.
I’d be willing to Bet it will happen soon and when it does it’ll be Quick!
Interested in repairing my JetBeam TC-R1, (I’m lacking knowledge and a Novice) Wires broken between LED and Double Stacked Boards below. I soldered New wire to LED (Brass LED Base is loose, not glued or secured). 1 wire is Broken just above the top of the
Perhaps it’s because “If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say it”
Which is not my way, as you know.
I hope that I am wrong, but it’s been a couple of weeks now.
Yeh, we all hope you are wrong but I have to admit the silence does seem odd
From memory tk mentioned issues with durability/longevity of the sleeve and shorting issues. Maybe that explains the delay in feedback
Sux being left in the dark but it’s so close
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Lol, didn’t even cross my mind when I wrote that
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