Fireflies ROT66 Flashlight

In the case of the MF lights, and I assumed this one, loosening the tail cap or battery tube should allow the driver spring to push the carrier away from the head breaking the negative contact.

This doesn’t work on the ROT66? How can the light possibly run without something pushing on the carrier to compress the driver springs?

In one of my ROT66’s the battery carrier is so tight that I can push it all the way in and run the light with no tail cap at all - of course you can bump it and disconnect

/\ Set it lens down & the carrier will contact the spring. That would do it wouldn’t it??

The carrier has to touch in 2 points to get both positive and negative electricity flowing. The driver spring is the positive and the carrier has to touch the body around the driver area.

As long as something is pushing the carrier all the way down allowing it to make contact with the head in 2 places, you will get power flowing.

The bump issue could be caused either by the carrier compressing against the tailcap and losing contact at the head or it could be from all three batteries compressing against their springs and losing contact at the positive end.

Does the tail cap press directly against the carrier or does it have something spongy between them?

:person_facepalming: …… Yep, I overlooked that minor detail it seems. . :person_facepalming:

Oh well…… back to the drawing board. . :smiley:

So I got the light back that I had the auxiliary board put in and placed batteries in it charged to 4.19v. I returned from work 3 hours later and the red LEDs had kicked in. They were now at 3v each. I charged them overnight back to 4.19v and turned the light onto the moonlight setting at 5 this morning, took my wife to the hospital for tests, took her to breakfast back to the hospital then home almost exactly 4 hours later and tested the batteries. They’re at 4.1v

So your aux LED are drawing more than moonlight. I’ve had my aux LEDs on for four or five days and my battery charge hasn’t moved. All three at 4.19V just where I had them. My aux LED came preinstalled.

PS that’s a short workday :thumbs up:

No, it’s more likely it was some type of other drain.

FF,
When might your PL47 be in stock? I’m interested in a 3-5k lumen headlamp that might fit my current headband.

That’s extremely high drain… like 3 Amps. It sounds a lot like one of the batteries might be inserted backward.

It couldn’t be a backwards battery because that would cause a direct short and the springs would melt and you’d get smoke as you inserted the battery.

I don’t think so. The light uses dual gold plated BeCu C17500 springs. It’d be almost impossible to melt them even in a direct short.

I do wonder what caused the large drain inside of the ROT66 though. Is it possible the light got activated by mistake inside of a bag or something, and drained down to LVP?

I’m repeating the experiment with 2 completely different sets of three batteries in the two lights. I think the third one arrives Monday

Just to clear things up, I ran the MT70 Plus on turbo again today and it went dead. What happened was that the batteries were tripping as I was using the protected keeppowers, ncr18650ga. Yesterday I thought that after I cleaned all the contacts and tried again that it was the problem as it ran again, but no, cells just tripping. Yesterday after all the cleaning, I didn't run it in turbo so it didn't cut out. Need to order more 30Q's as I took one away and then used only three in my rot66.

Boost drivers, like in the MT70, require high voltage (minimal resistance) to run turbo modes. Any type of protected cell is going to add resistance which reduces voltage and the driver tries to draw more amperage to compensate.

You definitely want a high drain unprotected cell to keep the voltage high under load.

I just received my black XP-L HI 3A blemished one at a discount from Fireflies. If it wasn’t stated that way, I wouldn’t even notice any blemish at all. My initial lumen measurements were 5,431 lumens at 1s on freshly charged VTC5D. However, like my other ROT66 that were making low lumen output, putting a spacer between the tail cap and battery cage increases contact pressure between the battery cage and the head, which increased lumen output to 6,940 lumens!

I suggest everyone use spacers (e.g., folded napkins, rubber bands, etc.) and remeasure your lumen output. Two of my ROT66 had this issue with not enough compression at the contact point causing low output. The compression force relies on the resistance of the rubber in the tailcap pushing up on the battery cage. However, over time, the rubber gets permanently deformed and loses its elasticity so there’s less rebound pressure pushing up against the cage. For those people that leave the battery cage tightened in the flashlight for a period of time, retest your lumen output. I’m pretty sure it is a good amount lower than when it was brand new.

I like the tint on the XP-L HI 3A alot. It is about 5200k, a very clean NW/CW and when compared next to 219B 4500k doesn’t look green at all unlike many other flashlights. However when shined on actual objects and not just white walls, the 219b 9080 still does a far superior job at color rendering. The XP-L HI runs cooler though.

I have my three rot66 stand by for 5 days after fully charged…

Rot66 aux mode ( med ). 4.17 v

Rot66 aux mode ( med ). 4.14v

Rot66 aux mode ( high). 4.17 v

Sorry to hear some of you people have a high drain stand by…

You can change the brightness on the aux leds? How do you do it?

I borrow the light from skylumen. Ask him.