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Technicalities aside, just get the Sofirn Q8 (even if you already have the BLF Q8). It’s very difficult to get another light for this performance/runtime/etc etc at just 40usd, or maybe around 50 now. It’s also a relatively low cost light, but it’s also very practical in real life + decent built (it survived a 1.5m drop from around my face level). Other that that it’s all down to personal preferences like preferring a 2S long thrower vs soda can format.

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For the record, I didn’t see a gain when changing the MOSFET to a Vishay version so I went with an Infineon FET from another light. Wasn’t much difference but hey, you stack the gains ya know? The single biggest difference was swapping to the XP-L2 emitters,

Stock, out of the box, 5775.3 lumens Using Samsung 30Q cells
Added brass screws 5909.85, +134.55
Swapped Blue springs 6020.25, + 110.4 (soldered a copper disc between the 4 springs as an aid, gotta play with copper somewhere!)
Spring bypass 20ga 6330.75, +310.5

Total gain at this point 555.45 lumens

Swapped to an Infineon MOSFET removed from the BLF GT mini for 6379.05, a 48.3 lumen gain (I THINK the Infineon came from the GT mini…)

XP-L2 emitters, 8659.5 lumens, a 2280.45 lumen gain (2884 over the stock out of box performance)
Samsung 25S cells, 9453 lumens, another 793.5 lumens gain
UCLp lens, 9936 lumens, yet another 483 lumens gain

Total mod gains went from 5775.3 lumens to 9936 lumens….4160.7 lumens gained over the stock light.

I’m obviously pulling quite a bit more power as well, so the extension tube with a second carrier would help in this instance for prolonged run times or usage overall (not necessarily “run time” as heat is a factor, but how long it can be used in a session)

I may just have to get another light for my next mod plan, leave this work alone and have a light to compare to the upcoming event. Big Smile

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DB Custom wrote:
For the record, I didn’t see a gain when changing the MOSFET to a Vishay version so I went with an Infineon FET from another light. Wasn’t much difference but hey, you stack the gains ya know? The single biggest difference was swapping to the XP-L2 emitters,

Stock, out of the box, 5775.3 lumens Using Samsung 30Q cells
Added brass screws 5909.85, +134.55
Swapped Blue springs 6020.25, + 110.4 (soldered a copper disc between the 4 springs as an aid, gotta play with copper somewhere!)
Spring bypass 20ga 6330.75, +310.5

Total gain at this point 555.45 lumens

Only these points will increase current and battery drain or not?

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Pretty much, yes.

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It’s quite impressive the potential of this light.
Does can be dangerous for Eyes Retina if is turned on at full power for who is in front,
or it’s worse a focused XHP 70?

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Alen wrote:
It’s quite impressive the potential of this light. Does can be dangerous for Eyes Retina if is turned on at full power for who is in front, or it’s worse a focused XHP 70?

You can screw up your retina/eyes if you forced yourself to stare at it. The sun is just a little over 100k lux.
Else your blink reflex and aversion reflex would protect you from permanent damage with the vast majority of the LED flashlights out there, even modded ones.

I am not sure if there are few tens of million candela LED flashlights out there though, with superbly big and high quality reflectors/lenses.

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Thank you both, it’s a version 1. So I have to search a good manual for this. The manual I’ve found talked from a second mode in strobe but I didn’t find it as I didn’t understand the instruction what to do in strobe to change mode. There was something written like “just click” but then I’m back in normal mode every time.
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Thank you both, it’s a version 1. So I have to search a good manual for this. The manual I’ve found talked from a second mode in strobe but I didn’t find it as I didn’t understand the instruction what to do in strobe to change mode. There was something written like “just click” but then I’m back in normal mode every time.

Hello,
I know the BLF Q8 has two sheets of instructions, text and a Cheat sheet (the table thing).

But I don’t know which instructions the Sofirn Q8 use.

I am wondering.

If you read both of them you should have found plenty of links to videos.

But I think Sofirn uses maybe old versions of the instructions.

Would you be so nice and post a picture of the instructions?
(or someone else)

Thank you

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lfowner wrote:
Thank you both, it’s a version 1. So I have to search a good manual for this. The manual I’ve found talked from a second mode in strobe but I didn’t find it as I didn’t understand the instruction what to do in strobe to change mode. There was something written like “just click” but then I’m back in normal mode every time.
lfowner wrote:
Thank you both, it’s a version 1. So I have to search a good manual for this. The manual I’ve found talked from a second mode in strobe but I didn’t find it as I didn’t understand the instruction what to do in strobe to change mode. There was something written like “just click” but then I’m back in normal mode every time.

Hello,
I know the BLF Q8 has two sheets of instructions, text and a Cheat sheet (the table thing).

But I don’t know which instructions the Sofirn Q8 use.

I am wondering.

If you read both of them you should have found plenty of links to videos.

But I think Sofirn uses maybe old versions of the instructions.

Would you be so nice and post a picture of the instructions?
(or someone else)

Thank you


Both Q8 use the same instructions.

All the information is in post #1 or #2 right here.

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Jason, I don’t know if Sofirn updated the BLF Q8 docs.
That’s the reason I’d like to see pics.

If it’s the same as in the BLF Q8 OP it is an old version.
(it so old that i don’t have the original document for the cheat sheet for NarsilM v1.0)

And does someone know why on earth they used NarsilM v1.0?
Imho v1.2 should be in booth versions, I am just wondering.

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joechina wrote:
Jason, I don’t know if Sofirn updated the BLF Q8 docs.
That’s the reason I’d like to see pics.

If it’s the same as in the BLF Q8 OP it is an old version.
(it so old that i don’t have the original document for the cheat sheet for NarsilM v1.0)

And does someone know why on earth they used NarsilM v1.0?
Imho v1.2 should be in booth versions, I am just wondering.


Why would the BLF Q8 docs need updating? It is the same from one year ago. They had no reason to update. Plus they had no update. The original software works well and reliably so why risk getting problems with an update? That is their usual mentality. Sofirn just got a copy of v1.2 (that works on the Q8) shortly after they started to sell the Sofirn Q8 version, so it was too late to update it then. There are just a couple little things that are different.

I don’t understand why you want a picture. Question

PS, the BLF Q8 is a Thorfire product. You would need to convince them they need to update the firmware. Sofirn does not dictate to their customers. They give the customer what they ask for.

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I can’t remember details.
But I think they use July 2017 version and they cuted the page to the stripe. The later two versions for v1 have helpfull text around.

v1.2 has momentary and backwards through modes and blinkies. And fixes

Photo:
Stripe = bloddy old
A4 = can’t get better

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Joechina, you are the maker of a cheatsheet so you obviously know how the UI works.

Are you asking about the little paper manual that comes with the Sofirn Q8?

You want a picture of it?

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How do you like Sofirn Q8 and SP36 using Anduril by Toykeeper?

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Many of us love Anduril! It is fun to play with and complex. I have a BLF Q8 with original Narsil and I flashed another BLF Q8 to Anduril.

Thanks Sofirn for asking our opinions!

Peace!

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Yes, Anduril brings some really nice features to these flashlights…I flashed both of my previous Sofirn Q8’s with Anduril as soon as I got them. I gave one away in a giveaway due to my post count and the other I still have here, making 8700 lumens with sliced and diced XP-L2 emitters. Wink (I don’t have anything against Narsil, I just have a horrible memory and try to keep everything consistent so I can remember how to work the lights.)

Very nice light, epic with Anduril! I have been using Anduril in virtually every light that has an e-switch. I use the candle light mode frequently, rely on the ability to set the ramp ceiling to preserve battery life, and really love impressing new people with the lightning mode.

Nice work, definitely keep up the communications with your users as you have been, really makes it an exciting experience for us and elevates Sofirn in the flashlight game. Big Smile

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Anduril for the win

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How do you like Sofirn Q8 and SP36 using Anduril by Toykeeper?

I can’t really ask for anything more.

Um….maybe more blinking modes patterns for more disco fun? Steve Party

Ok, seriously, i always have this fetish about LED nav lights on the 787, . They are also bright as hell both in lumens and candela.

Maybe we can fine tune a bit and add 1 or 2 more blink modes to include a more strobe-like shorter duration effect, and perhaps with 1 single duration ON instead of the current 2?

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Look at the belly side red LED blinker. Orgasmic beacon. Smile You could use some gel films and a diffuser. Heat affecting the film would not have an issue, so 5-digit lumens lights ought to not have an issue.

Technically they refer strobe to be flashes like below 200 microseconds or so? Anyway, see if there is a way to fine tune the length of the ON duration?

The bike strobe is nice, but maybe we can look at the above aircraft strobe also that’s implemented at the tail end of the 787.

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BLF or Sofirn, the Q8 is really a very superb light. i’ve been routinely modding mine with 351D 4000k 94CRI LEDs, tail spring bypass and upgraded LED wires(22ga). they are my “Go To” light for most jobs, espc my tailstand “room lighters”. I plan to flash the driver with toykeepers fun programming for at least 1 light but for ease of use, i think i’ll keep most of them stock.
I gifted one of my mod’d versions to my dad, and he LOVES it, best light he said he’s ever had, espc compared to the dozens of new LED lights he’s bought.
I even have a Req for a 3000k XPL-HI version.
LOVE this light! Sofirn or otherwise!

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Sofirn wrote:
How do you like Sofirn Q8 and SP36 using Anduril by Toykeeper?

I think that for most BLF enthousiasts, Anduril may be the nicest user interface (but not for all, some people prefer Narsil above Anduril), but for the general public Narsil is perfect enough, I do not think that it will make a difference if they get Anduril or Narsil.
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djozz wrote:
Sofirn wrote:
How do you like Sofirn Q8 and SP36 using Anduril by Toykeeper?
I think that for most BLF enthousiasts, Anduril may be the nicest user interface (but not for all, some people prefer Narsil above Anduril), but for the general public Narsil is perfect enough, I do not think that it will make a difference if they get Anduril or Narsil.

It may not make a difference now but if no one is around/willing to maintain Narsil then you will be stuck with a UI that cannot be put on newer lights. This is a problem and something that should be considered for the future unless you want every light to have a different UI.

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djozz wrote:
Sofirn wrote:
How do you like Sofirn Q8 and SP36 using Anduril by Toykeeper?
I think that for most BLF enthousiasts, Anduril may be the nicest user interface (but not for all, some people prefer Narsil above Anduril), but for the general public Narsil is perfect enough, I do not think that it will make a difference if they get Anduril or Narsil.

It may not make a difference now but if no one is around/willing to maintain Narsil then you will be stuck with a UI that cannot be put on newer lights. This is a problem and something that should be considered for the future unless you want every light to have a different UI.


You are suggesting a new BLF responsibility: if we want a consistent user interface delivered by the manufacturers, we must be around to tweak it for every new flashlight type that comes to the market. And for Narsil we=TomE, and his presence on the forum is limited at times, and for Anduril we=ToyKeeper who currently spends numerous hours on the forum and on firmware, but who knows when the moment comes that she will be discovered by a smart and visionary software company and be gone? So I do not see that maintenance of Anduril is neccessarily more future-proof than Narsil.

The best is if manufacturers who make use of BLF firmwares learn to make the changes themselves.

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djozz wrote:
The best is if manufacturers who make use of BLF firmwares learn to make the changes themselves.
I think the best would be the next generation, e.g. a user-programmable version. A simple free software for all platforms (including Win/Linux/Android) and a programmer-cable like it’s developed at the moment from Lexel. And an opinion to program a light without desoldering the driver.
THAT would be my dream for the future!
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lfowner wrote:
djozz wrote:
The best is if manufacturers who make use of BLF firmwares learn to make the changes themselves.
I think the best would be the next generation, e.g. a user-programmable version. A simple free software for all platforms (including Win/Linux/Android) and a programmer-cable like it’s developed at the moment from Lexel. And an opinion to program a light without desoldering the driver. THAT would be my dream for the future!

Emisar is probably the closest thing to this right now. The D4S has programming pins and open source firmware.

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lfowner wrote:
djozz wrote:
The best is if manufacturers who make use of BLF firmwares learn to make the changes themselves.
I think the best would be the next generation, e.g. a user-programmable version. A simple free software for all platforms (including Win/Linux/Android) and a programmer-cable like it’s developed at the moment from Lexel. And an opinion to program a light without desoldering the driver.
THAT would be my dream for the future!

There are already ways to program using the blinking light of a phone or pc screen. No cable involved! Maybe that can become more common.

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TK is working on that Jason. Wink

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DB Custom wrote:
TK is working on that Jason. Wink

Yes, but lfowner didn’t seem to be aware of it.

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That’s correct. Link?

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FW3A Thread #359
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1124104#comment-1124104
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Video Proof of Concept
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1124378#comment-1124378

It is a proof of concept.
It is slow and you can’t flash the µC while it is communicating. So it is more a thing to configure the lamp. A Russian flashlight manufacturer does it already. But the programming key is for flashing.

That is what I understood.

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