Mateminco X6S, Factory Triple

I received a couple of Mateminco X6S Triples from Neal and wanted to share with y’all how they made these, this is a copy of the original Eagle Eye X6 along the lines of the Kronos variant with similar knurling as the Kronos. The light is a factory triple available in either XP-L HI V3 3A or Nichia 219C, I got both lights in XP-L HI variation.

Here are the long tube and short tube versions, beside the same in the original X6…

Mateminco uses a proprietary triple optic very different from the Ledil CUTE-3 I always used building the X6 triple. These are smaller individual TIR’s and this yields a very large hot spot that is almost pure flood. They shortened the bezel to eliminate the need for a spacer which makes for a more compact light overall. Neal even talked them into making short tubes, which, when equipped with an 18350 cell, makes for an ultra compact triple X6S!

The driver is the same BLF A17DD with FET+1 componentry and ToyKeeper’s Bistro UI. There are two stacked capacitors at the positive lead on the driver to ensure reliable operation as a triple and this works. The driver also has the bleeder resistor and lighted tail cap with blue SMD emitters on the switch pcb. I find these too bright with the pair of 202 resistors, but this can be modulated by increasing resistance. The driver has a single gold plated spring, tail switch pcb has a dual gold plated spring.

Build quality looks good, these came with greased threads and extra o-rings also with 2 spare boots, one clear and one slightly pink. The hardened mineral glass lens is AR coated and does a nice job. The copper MCPCB is thick and DTP, with positive on the inner area and positive on the outer, a good thing. This MCPCB has double screws securing it to a pretty thick emitter shelf with a large central hole for the wires.

I, uh, modified one of them within the hour. :blush: The short tube variant you see here with the orange lighted tail cap now has Samsung LH351D 80 CRI 5000K emitters, 12 ga leads and dual Blue springs top and bottom, it makes 4005 lumens on an 18650 and 2957 lumens from an Aspire 18350 1300mAh cell.

Out of the box I found, using an Sony VTC5A cell freshly charged, the XP-L HI triple makes numbers like this…. (triple is equivalent to a 30s read as it was after all the other mode levels. :wink: )

0.01A for 0.3795 lumens
0.03A for 4.485 lumens
0.13A for 53.13 lumens
0.62A for 227.355 lumens
2.20A for 707.25 lumens
5.89A for 1562.85 lumens
12.86A for 3156.75 lumens

The OM included in the box states 0.6/6/50/203/579/1300/3000 in accordance with ANSI/NEMAF-L1 standards.
They also state the Nichia 219C specs at 0.58/4/38/153/420/889/2200

Pretty sure they didn’t use a Sony VTC5A cell in their testing. :slight_smile:

And I have to note here, for TK, that the optic used here puts a slight greenish hue to the Samsungs that I haven’t had issue with in other lights. The factory XP-L HI V3 3A looks slightly rosy by comparison.

Thanks for the report on this flashlight Dale :slight_smile:
I never owned an X6, but this is surely a temptation, specially being even shorter than the original!!

You wouldn’t be you if you didn’t :smiling_imp:

Thanks for this review Dale. I like that they shortened the bezel. I’ll be sure to pick a couple of these up. I still have the x6 triple you built me along side my bed.

Killer review, I meant to pick one of these up from Neal on my last order and forgot…. :cry: Def looks interesting I think I am going to be picking up a few for Christmas presents. Also how does the NW and CW compare to each other? NW about 5000k and CW about 6500k?

Could you do some beam shots when you get a chance? Also with how you talk about the beam being so floody, doesn’t seem like it needed the other lens shown in pictures.

The pictures show my own triple build on a X6 with the Ledil CUTE-3 optic, polished. These have a lot larger individual optics so they have more of a hot spot to the beam profile. Not sure why they didn’t go with something like this, maybe availability of the Ledil components, or price. The Ledil CUTE-3 is taller as well, about as tall as the X6S optic plus o-ring plus glass lens.

Does it take flat top ??

Yes, it does take flat top 18650s.

And/or flat top 18350’s. :wink:

Button top works as well, but protected cells may be too long.

Thanks for the review, Dale. I thought this light was a great idea, when I first read about it a while back. But, I realized that I like the original X6 head size better than the more compact head on this light, when looking at them side-by-side in your photos. And floodier optics? :confounded:

Thanks… i ordered one 5 days ago… just need to get some more unprotected Sony VTC5A flat top…

Thanks for the review!

Is the heat sinking the same as a standard X6?

The fins are cut properly, the emitter shelf appears to be a bit thicker and the copper DTP MCPCB is pretty thick as well.

I will disassemble one tomorrow and get pictures and measurements of these dimensions…

Thanks for the review Dale !

I must try one :slight_smile:

Great review and what a cool light!

Thanks for the review, Dale. These look very, very nice. They are also a great deal. It wasn’t too long ago that the parts alone cost a lot more than this, and maybe they still do. Decisions are getting tougher, with the FW3A if that happens, the Emisars, this, and others.

Thanks for reviewing, thumbs up!!

Thanks for the pictures and Lumen readings!

Where are your Kronos Flashlights for direct comparison?
Does they use the same threads as the Kronos?
Is there a clip included? there is much space for a clip.

They do come with a clip and lanyard, and a couple of extra o-rings and two extra rubber boots, a clear one and a sort of pinkish one.

Will the Kronos lights be a direct comparison? Aren’t they made by Manker? Interesting question, need to look at that…

Looking good Dale, and I see a lot of inspiration/homage :wink:

A better driver/firmware could transform them.

I like the rounded lines of the original (I have four), and the screwed-in pill, and reflector screwed into the pill. Of course with a TIR that’s not necessary.

The anodising… was not terribly good.

Actually I just like these, rather than the dreary industrial tubes, bigger tubes with fins on the head, huge tubes with even huger heads, the “how big can I make a reflector and put a SOA emitter behind it” game, etc.

When/where can we get them ?