Sofirn Q8 group buy (gb closed, but try PM to Sofirn for discount)

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I’d love to pump a perpetrator/attack full of lead or copper in my house but unfortunately guns are banned here. Actually stun guns/mace/pepper sprays/long hobby knives too. So we only have kitchen knives and choppers. Sad But it works both ways, both the attacker and me would not have access to guns/sprays, so it’s an even playing field in those regards.
I still can carry a flick type manual hobby/tactical knive like a CRKT M16 or even an EDC type of knife, they do get past customs extremely often via certain channels, but good luck to myself should i get myself into a routine police spot-check which is of a much higher probability than getting mugged/raped here in my country.

The idea of self-defence with a flashlight is not new. It might not even be in the house, but even during a run in the park (my country is very safe, but still people do get robbed and raped during runs around the more secluded parts of parks and reservoir areas etc).

There are many ways to this. (1) Disorients the attacker with pure lumens/lux, this is something that would be of the most interest to flashaholics. Steve (2) Tactical flashlights as an attacking tool, an improvised weapon. An attack front bezel does the most damage but of course it might not be always legal. (3) Both of the above : Utilize point 1 first, then apply point 2 during the window of opportunity when his vision is screwed with bright purple spots all over his retina FOV and perhaps extremely disoriented due to the police strobe effect.
ie blind n disorient with flashlight, then poke him with it. Big Smile

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With all that being said, i think the Sofirn Q8 is a somewhat effective tool. At 1-2 metres, there is enough lux (100k to 25k) esp in a darkened environment. The hotspot size is not overly small, at 1 metre it actually is approx the size of a human head and is not overly difficult to aim optimally, 2 metres is even better while maintaining enough lux.
A soda can light is also about the max that you can comfortably carry (even when running) majority of the time be it holstered or in the pants, either that or a Convoy L6 style light in the back pocket with the head sticking out.

Top it off with a Klarus XT11GT with an strike attack bezel and it’d be very nice indeed, everything is done while staying perfectly legal in 99% of countries out there.

I mentioned “somewhat effective” tool, coz seriously IMO, it’d be better if we have the Imalent R90C performance squeezed into a soda can light, 500k-1M cd and 20000 lumens.
Unfortunately that means next-gen LEDs, or more possibly matured LEP tech. Better battery tech with a revolutionary change is also welcomed too.

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That’s not what I am seeing in the potential for a weapon Q8.

Just strap on the extension tubes, bypass everything in the light, use Luxeon Vs, and let her rip as an attack weapon Smile

Quite literally. It would be a sun baton Wink

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That’s not what I am seeing in the potential for a weapon Q8.

Just strap on the extension tubes, bypass everything in the light, use Luxeon Vs, and let her rip as an attack weapon Smile

Nice!

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How do you like Sofirn Q8 and SP36 using Anduril by Toykeeper?
I think that for most BLF enthousiasts, Anduril may be the nicest user interface (but not for all, some people prefer Narsil above Anduril), but for the general public Narsil is perfect enough, I do not think that it will make a difference if they get Anduril or Narsil.

It may not make a difference now but if no one is around/willing to maintain Narsil then you will be stuck with a UI that cannot be put on newer lights. This is a problem and something that should be considered for the future unless you want every light to have a different UI.


You are suggesting a new BLF responsibility: if we want a consistent user interface delivered by the manufacturers, we must be around to tweak it for every new flashlight type that comes to the market. And for Narsil we=TomE, and his presence on the forum is limited at times, and for Anduril we=ToyKeeper who currently spends numerous hours on the forum and on firmware, but who knows when the moment comes that she will be discovered by a smart and visionary software company and be gone? So I do not see that maintenance of Anduril is neccessarily more future-proof than Narsil.

The best is if manufacturers who make use of BLF firmwares learn to make the changes themselves.

I agree. We tried but I don’t know why engineer told the hex files we received can NOT be modified. I think they use different software to modify.

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Wellllll, you wouldn’t modify the .hex files…. that’s what the C files are for. Wink

.hex files are what actually get flashed into the MCU for the UI, 1’s and 0’s in binary code. C files are the written code where changes can be made. C files get rendered into .hex files for use in the light. FWIW that may be WTMI, YMMV. Silly

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@Sofirn. See this as a suggestion. It could help if one of the Sofirn engineers has enough time, and knowledge of english to be able to visit BLF, so that technical questions can directly be understood and answered.

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Got my project Q8 in the mail today from Amazon, shot an unboxing first look on the lightbox with fresh charged Samsung 25S cells. I did forget what the numbers were at 30 seconds, it was actually 16,720 on the meter for 5768.4 lumens. Sorry about that, I can seriously forget stuff in the blink of an eye. It is what it is…

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Good video, thank’s for sharing. Thumbs Up

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I have arranged for Mr. Dick Casull to talk them into leaving the premises. He encourages them to leave peacefully, in a horizontal position. Wink

Holy over penetration.454 Thumbs Up
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pennzy, not necessarily… like with our flashlights and cells, the right combination usually proves to be worth the effort. Managing power efficiently is always the name of the game, amIright?

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Hey guys, is there any discount code to get the BLF Q8 nearly the same price than the Sofirn Q8? I am not so happy with the beam of my Sofirn Q8, it’s a little bit too much throw in my view.

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pennzy, not necessarily… like with our flashlights and cells, the right combination usually proves to be worth the effort. Managing power efficiently is always the name of the game, amIright?

Reloader?
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Used to, don’t anymore but have boxes and boxes from when I did. CorBon made a really outstanding 200 gr uncontrolled expansion .45 that was really explosive when pushed hard. Smile

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/\ .. Yep!! . Thumbs Up

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lfowner wrote:
Hey guys, is there any discount code to get the BLF Q8 nearly the same price than the Sofirn Q8? I am not so happy with the beam of my Sofirn Q8, it’s a little bit too much throw in my view.

a change of LED will also fix that. Smile

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lfowner wrote:
Hey guys, is there any discount code to get the BLF Q8 nearly the same price than the Sofirn Q8? I am not so happy with the beam of my Sofirn Q8, it’s a little bit too much throw in my view.

a change of LED will also fix that. Smile

Yep, but that seems to be a little bit too difficult for me at the moment. I am really not able to reflow-solder…

@BlueSwordM: thx!

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lfowner wrote:
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lfowner wrote:
Hey guys, is there any discount code to get the BLF Q8 nearly the same price than the Sofirn Q8? I am not so happy with the beam of my Sofirn Q8, it’s a little bit too much throw in my view.

a change of LED will also fix that. Smile

Yep, but that seems to be a little bit too difficult for me at the moment. I am really not able to reflow-solder…

@BlueSwordM: thx!

Apply a frosted film, or get a front lens that has a slight diffusion film (eg UCLens). That should make it slightly better.

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Another project piece arrived late yesterday afternoon, I now have the Sofirn Q8 and a 4 pound chunk of Aluminum that are engaged to be married soon, maybe even today! Big Smile

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The marriage of 4”×3.25” 6061 bar stock to Sofirn Q8 in a private ceremony conducted by Reverend Dr. Frankendale took place this morning. The ceremony was about 3 1/2 hours, seems the 6061 had cold feet and needed some persuading.

The couple are now bonded and anxiously await the arrival of their little ones so they can begin their happy but exhausting life together…

They plan a rather large family, expecting 12 Samsung LH351D 80 CRI 5000K and 4 Cree XP-L HI V3 3A to pair up with Noctigon Quad MCPCB’s and Ledil Angie optics. Should be a rather enlightening experience. Big Smile

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Wow…. that looks like the beginnings to a happy & bright future!! Best wishes to the happy couple as they anxiously await their ‘litter’ of chiren’…. Wink

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The marriage of 4”×3.25” 6061 bar stock to Sofirn Q8 in a private ceremony conducted by Reverend Dr. Frankendale took place this morning. The ceremony was about 3 1/2 hours, seems the 6061 had cold feet and needed some persuading.

The couple are now bonded and anxiously await the arrival of their little ones so they can begin their happy but exhausting life together…

They plan a rather large family, expecting 12 Samsung LH351D 80 CRI 5000K and 4 Cree XP-L HI V3 3A to pair up with Noctigon Quad MCPCB’s and Ledil Angie optics. Should be a rather enlightening experience. Big Smile

You can do gym with this big piece of Alu Smile
how much measure the Hole on the center of shelf?

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Alen, the hole in the center is 14.4mm dia.

This 4” × 3.25” piece of 6061 was 4 lbs to begin with, more stock removal will be required for the emitters and then I’ll cut fins and shape it so quite a bit of weight loss will still occur.

Edit: Just mating it to the Q8 took it down to 2 lbs and 13/16. So I have a pound a 3/16 of shavings off this chunk already. lol

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2100 wrote:
lfowner wrote:
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lfowner wrote:
Hey guys, is there any discount code to get the BLF Q8 nearly the same price than the Sofirn Q8? I am not so happy with the beam of my Sofirn Q8, it’s a little bit too much throw in my view.
a change of LED will also fix that. Smile
Yep, but that seems to be a little bit too difficult for me at the moment. I am really not able to reflow-solder…
@BlueSwordM: thx!
Apply a frosted film, or get a front lens that has a slight diffusion film (eg UCLens). That should make it slightly better.

Maybe, but then there is absolutely no reason to buy the BLF Q8 Wink
And I cannot compare directly.
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Got some more preparation done on the Q8 41 MAG today. Some new plans have a little bit of a twist, a center reflector to add some punch down the middle. Reflector from an X5, emitter to be determined but I am pretty sure which one I’ll use. I plan to utilize the original driver with MOSFET and 7135 chip exchanged to match what I put on slave boards, so the original driver will be Master and I will have 4 slaves, the Master will run the center reflectored emitter and each of the slaves will run the 4 quad’s populated with Samsung emitters, for a total of 17 emitters. Projected output is in the 26,000 lumen range. Wink

I know the pic here shows an HI in the middle, but that has changed. lol I will have to inset the MCPCB with the emitter in the center to allow for the deeper reflector, and I will have to cut the optics to meet the reflector but only a little, the cut curve will be where one of the 4 legs is so there will be that one sacrifice. Shouldn’t matter. The X5 reflector has an outer shelf for an o-ring that I’m thinking will catch the optic and pin it to the glass lens, so the leg won’t be missed. Will see. Wink

Today’s work ended up with the light in this condition. Ready to inset the center board, the 4 quads should be ready to go in. I have a glass lens that fits but I’ll need to make some adjustments to the bezel as this lens is thicker than I’d planned, may still go ahead and order a UCLp for maximum throughput…

When I’m nearer to finished I’ll make aesthetic changes and cut cooling fins. Wink

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Looks amazing Dale. Nice machining on such large material on a smallish lathe. Beer

 

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This morning I inset the center MCPCB and reflector. I found a reflector that is a little smaller than the X5 I was going to use, this should allow me to use the 4 Ledil Angie’s on the Noctigon 33mm Quad MCPCB’s without cutting any on the optics. Smile

26mm Maxtoch copper MCPCB with XM footprint. I’ll be using a de-domed SST-40 for the center punch. Big Smile As you can see, I started to cut the remaining shelf to be ready for the boards and optics but decided to wait til I had them in hand to be sure of the depth. I COULD disassemble my D4S and check this measurement but so far I’m waiting. lol The shelf is at 10mm and the math makes me think I need 12.7mm, but I don’t know for sure so it’s wait time. The Maxtoch MCPCB and reflector required a 17.7mm depth, hence the inset.

Difficult to see in the picture but there is an AR coated glass lens in place… the lens from my BTU Shocker just happens to fit perfectly albeit a bit thicker than I’d planned. Will wait and not inset that for a perfect fit as I have sent a message to Chris to make a 95mm UCLp… Wink

Edit: So yes, there will be 5 drivers to 5 “lights” within this one head, essentially 4 D4S lights with a modified 22mm tube light sporting a de-domed SST-40 for throw down the middle. Should be interesting to see what Sofirn’s carriers can do. 4 quads plus the one reflector, hence 41 in the name, and the MAG is a spinoff of both Magnum power and the acronym Most Audacious Guffaw, to poke fun of Giggles for the name of a flashlight. 25,000 lumens should get a pretty good gut laugh, yes?

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You know this mod should have its own thread Dale. Smile

 

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Yeah yeah yeah, simple little add on to the Q8. Silly

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