[klrman]

Thanks. So it's not as rosy as the 219C then correct? I'd be interested in that for sure if it's the case.

[BlueSwordM]

No.

The emitter is cooler, but the tint is quite a bit rosier than it.

The SST-20 would be your best bet for a better beam than the 219C, but not as rosy as the 219B.

[SKV89]

@klrman

Thanks. So it’s not as rosy as the 219C then correct? I’d be interested in that for sure if it’s the case.

Are you sure you find the 219C rosy? It is very yellowish green. The Cree XP-L HI A and D tints are much rosier than the 219C.

[klrman]

Looking at their SST-20 it shows NW 4000K CRI95. Little worried it may be too yellow for me.

[klrman]

@SKV89

@klrman

Thanks. So it's not as rosy as the 219C then correct? I'd be interested in that for sure if it's the case.

Are you sure you find the 219C rosy? It is very yellowish green. The Cree XP-L HI A and D tints are much rosier than the 219C.

I don't know for sure as I never had a Nichia emitter before, but I thought some said it's real rosy. I have two rot66 XP-L HI V3 3A 5K and they seem just perfect. If the 219C is yellowish green, then maybe not really for me.

[d_t_a]

@klrman

@SKV89

@klrman

Thanks. So it’s not as rosy as the 219C then correct? I’d be interested in that for sure if it’s the case.

Are you sure you find the 219C rosy? It is very yellowish green. The Cree XP-L HI A and D tints are much rosier than the 219C.

I don’t know for sure as I never had a Nichia emitter before, but I thought some said it’s real rosy. I have two rot66 XP-L HI V3 3A 5K and they seem just perfect. If the 219C is yellowish green, then maybe not really for me.

maybe some beamshots for comparison

FF ROT66 (9x Nicha 219B SW45K R9080)

(yes, it looks rosy…)

Mateminco X6S (3x Nichia 219C)

Emisar D4 (4x Nichia 219C 5000K CRI 90)

Emisar D4S (4x Nichia 219C 5000K CRI 90)

The D4S has a slight hint of yellow-green on the outer fringe of the hotspot

[SKV89]

Those beamshots from dta are pretty accurate except some 219C look greener than that. The 219B 9080 4500k resembles sunlight the best at night more than any other color temperature. The ROT66 XP-L HI 3A look very natural white when shined on a white wall, but when shined in the outdoor at night, it looks more like daylight during a cloudy day.

[g_damian]

Please remember that there are different chromatically binned 219c.

[klrman]

@d_t_a

maybe some beamshots for comparison

Those beamshots explain everything, thanks d_t_a.

[klrman]

@SKV89

Those beamshots from dta are pretty accurate except some 219C look greener than that. The 219B 9080 4500k resembles sunlight the best at night more than any other color temperature. The ROT66 XP-L HI 3A look very natural white when shined on a white wall, but when shined in the outdoor at night, it looks more like daylight during a cloudy day.

I have to try the 219B then as I don't have anything like that in my collection. FF has it listed as V1 R9080, is that the 4500K?

[SKV89]

yes SW45K means 4500k

[SKV89]

@g_damian

Please remember that there are different chromatically binned 219c.

The only really good chromacity binned 219C is the “E” bin that Clemence was selling on Virence.com. Those were guaranteed not to be above the BBL so you don’t get any green/yellow. But unfortunately those are sold out. I have dozens of 219C 4000k and 5000k flashlights and I would take Cree 70CRI 3A/3D 5A/5D tint emitters over the typical above the BBL 90CRI 219C emitters any day. For me, it’s either 219B 9080 or Cree A or D tints. But of course everyone’s preferences are different.

[Kingjohn]

Are there any beamshot comparisons between the 4k Samsung and the Nichia emitter?

Btw: I’m interested, in case I could still get a code….

Btw: I also own a Astrolux MF 01
How does this one compare to the rot66?

[adam7027]

@adam7027

Finally ordered one with black body and SST20 4000K 95CRI emitters.

I have already flashlights with SST20 4000K 95CRI, so I know, what to expect about color rendering, but this will be my first multi emitter one.

Also, this will be my first Andúril flashlight, so I am now pretty excited

I received my ROT66 yesterday, and seems to be a pretty nice fit in my hands, so this body format is proven to be lovely for me, again.

I need to experiment with the UI though, but I like that, too. Somehow, stepdown from turbo happens very quickly, so I will calibrate the current temperature setting.

[ToyKeeper]

@SKV89

I would take Cree 70CRI 3A/3D 5A/5D tint emitters over the typical above the BBL 90CRI 219C emitters any day. For me, it’s either 219B 9080 or Cree A or D tints.

Same. The 219B is sort of a holy grail of LEDs for light quality, but the Cree 3D tint is pretty close too. Its siblings, 3A and 4A, are also nice.

I don’t care as much for 4000K for flashlight purposes, but 4000K works pretty well for interior lighting.

[d_t_a]

A bit off topic for this thread.

I’ve noticed the 5A tint (Astrolux S1) looks a bit “rosy” too. Similarly for the Astrolux/Convoy C8 XPL-Hi which uses “3A” tints.

I’ve not yet seen a flashlight with “4A” tint yet (is there some inexpensive pre-built flashlight that uses the “4A” tint)?

[twisted_raven]

I’ve done some extensive testing outdoors with my 219B vs SST20 4000k+804 ROT66s. The SST20+804 has come away the winner for me both indoors and now outdoors. It just makes woods and mud/dirt pop so much, with a comfortable warm tone. The 219B can look a little ghastly in comparison. The only thing I think the 219B does better is tint consistency within the beam itself. The 219B has virtually no shift in tint or CCT from hotspot to spill, while the spill of the SST20 is slightly cooler and more rosy than hotspot.

[jtechl]

@twisted raven

I’ve done some extensive testing outdoors with my 219B vs SST20 4000k+804 ROT66s. The SST20+804 has come away the winner for me both indoors and now outdoors. It just makes woods and mud/dirt pop so much, with a comfortable warm tone. The 219B can look a little ghastly in comparison. The only thing I think the 219B does better is tint consistency within the beam itself. The 219B has virtually no shift in tint or CCT from hotspot to spill, while the spill of the SST20 is slightly cooler and more rosy than hotspot.

is the 804 filter a film you cut out and put over the glass?

[SKV89]

@twisted raven

I’ve done some extensive testing outdoors with my 219B vs SST20 4000k+804 ROT66s. The SST20+804 has come away the winner for me both indoors and now outdoors. It just makes woods and mud/dirt pop so much, with a comfortable warm tone. The 219B can look a little ghastly in comparison. The only thing I think the 219B does better is tint consistency within the beam itself. The 219B has virtually no shift in tint or CCT from hotspot to spill, while the spill of the SST20 is slightly cooler and more rosy than hotspot.

From my own observation, the 219B 9080 and SST20 95CRI emitters really excel on wood textures and outdoor due to the high R9. The R9 of the SST20 I believe is a bit higher than the 219B 9080 and adding the 804 filter probably bumped the R9 close to 100, which is why it looks so good outdoor.

[djozz]

Yes, it is a filter made by Lee. Lee 804 removes some green, it is used by photographers to compensate for the green cast that is often produced by led lighting.