FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

My preferred option is:

Go for the XP-L HI lights right now, and worry about the LH351D lights later.

XP-L HI now, LH351D later.

I am all for the XP-L Hi as well, as long as it isn’t 4000K. 5000K or a bit better is good with me. So if the XP-L is going to be 4000K I would wait for the Samsung emitter if it’s going to be 5000K or better. If both are going to be 4000K then I would prefer a light without any emitters at all. If none of that is a option I will buy another D4.

Good question…. :+1:

  • Is the XP-L HI going to be ’at least 5000K’ (or a bit more??)

Release the XP-L V3HI 5000k or better and may God have Mercy on my Soul… I want it….I want to use it…. or at least have it, before I’m DEAD! :smiley:

Is it too late to get on the list? If not please add me to the list.

Thanks,
Ajohn151

The reason the GT needed extra shipping costs for certain countries was due to its very large size and weight. Some countries cost $70 to $90 to ship it and Lumintop did not know this in advance.

This little light is not going to have such crazy high shipping costs. Lumintop has shipped thousands of lights this small, so there should not be any shipping cost surprises.

The reason there was a PayPal fee was because the GT was bought through Neal’s personal account and from the fact Lumintop estimated a too low Group Buy price way before they knew the total cost of the light to make and the shipping costs. They lost money on the early lights and made a tiny bit on the later ones. Lumintop could not afford to pay the fee themselves as they would have lost even more money.

Fast forward to the FW3A, I don’t think we have to worry about extra PayPal fees as the final price is not announced yet. So far it is just an estimated price. I guess they have learned their lesson on locking in prices too early.

We should get a firm price closer to the actual sale. This way there should be no “extra” fees involved.

The GT (and GT70) contains zero glue. Maybe you meant the GT Mini which had a glued bezel.

Option 3
(Good things come to those who wait)

please count me in for 2 hi cri models :)
i vote for option no.2 to wait a while longer for better tint!
many thanks for all your efforts :)

Hello, I vote for:

XP-L HI now, LH351D later.

I’m on the TLF Interest List.

I would like the XP-L HI now, and the other later. It will be easier on my wallet to do two $30 purchases than one$60 one.

That is my choice

That is my favorite option too :sunglasses:

Option 2 is the best and option 3 is the second best option. Option 1 is not an option.

Or, option 3 with 4000K XP-L HI first, and 5000K 351D’s after that. This is the best option.
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For me.

XP-L now, 351D later :+1:

Option 3 please.
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I don’t mind either Option 2 or 3 but definitely not Option 1.

Please do not use any of the LH351D currently available in the FW3A. They are all too green. The groupbuys were T6 and T7 bins that were supposed to be at or below the BBL but in reality, they are all much above the BBL resulting in the yellow or green tint as shown in the Bob McBob’s comparison TK posted earlier. Please note that the few E21A 4000k flashlights I have don’t look anywhere that rosy and the LH351D is even more green than in the pics. Really hope Neal can source T1, T2, T3, T4 bin. I don’t mind waiting. I rather have perfect emitters to begin with so no need to mod.

Another option besides the Samsungs are the Luminus SST-20-W 95CRI. The 4000k sold on Kaidomain is the FB4 bin, which is far above the BBL. Fireflies is using the FA3 bin in the ROT66 and that was reported to have some slight green and requires minus green filter to perfect. If Neal can source the FA1, FA4, FD1, FD4, it should give the Nichia 9080 appearance but with better performance vs 219B.

Lemme join the band:

Make the XP-L HI model now, and do the LH351D lights later. :+1:

That’s my choice

I’m not particularly knowledgeable but do we know the exact tint and colour temps for the various led’s that will be offered?
Is there two xpl-hi options and two Samsung options? Some of the comments seem to suggest there is 4K and 5k xpl’s and the same for the Samsung’s? Excuse my ignorance if i’m miss understanding the comments.
Thanks