Russia launches different satan2 (rs-28 sarmat) and we have…“.the biggest flash developments that’ll hit in 2019……”a sea pure bright white light.
I want to make it to Cali someday, various places are on my bucket list.
I’m talking about LED handheld. Polar Li is going xenon. Might as well do an HID on steroids or a mini ARC welder. Not truly impressed. Xenon is like comparing a blown dragster that uses nitromethane vs Pro Stock. Not to mean the engineering isn’t impressive. It is.
LED flash is watt separates the studs from the geldings. It’s what 99.9% mod on CPF and BLF these days.
IMO there should be a handheld weight limit in order to call anything “handheld” for purposes of breaking that class record.
If I were a gorilla I too could hoist a flash containing 75lbs of lithiums in one hand butt I would be BSing to really claim it is recognized as a typically plausible handheld unit. :laughing:
What is the record for a single cell light? Regardless of the size of the cell but at least easily attainable by the general public, and hauling a marine or automobile battery in a wagon don’t count.
I also gotta say that IMO the BLF GT format is just about pushing the semi-PRACTICAL “handheld” envelope to the max.
So if Endy were to take on this challenge a multi-cell LED host is IMO record-breaking acceptable. I assume to achieve that throw he would go with a single emitter. Wavien collared? If he can swing it heck ya butt unlikely if GT dimensioned. Soooooooo, aspheric or reflectored. Hmmmmmm. LEP class for now doesn’t count - yet I’m sure it will someday.
If anyone can do it he can. 
I don’t think LED really has a future for super far throw, it is better suited to high CRIs and high efficiency.
It’s just not high enough intensity blue light behind the phosphor.
If anything can beat a short arc, it will have to be laser phosphor.
It’s essentially the same as an LED, but the blue light behind the phosphor is more directional (because it is a laser instead) and can therefore be concentrated into a small point.
Ok well heck LEP it is then. Short arc vs extreme led (LEP). From watt I’m seeing the size to output ratio for an LEP light cannon will beat the short arc platform if the Acebeam W10 performance is any indication. Can it be done right now by pushing an LEP?
I think so. At least I hope you think so. :laughing:
Anyway let’s get ready to lux rumble! :+1: 
Polar-Li’s light is extremely optimized for best performance. Much more so than many led throwers here on the forum. He is using an unbelieveably intense bulb (20x the luminance of the Osram Black Flat LED) and a large precision reflector with a better reflecitivity compared to standard aluminium reflectors. He also is able to precisely position bulb because if the 3D focussing mechanism.
Xenon Bulbs use the best possible materials in terms of how much heat they can tolerate - quartz glass and thick tungsten electrodes. They also create full pecturm light (almost 100CRI). I don’t think LEDs will ever get this intense, especially with such high light quality.
I wonder if we will see a 100k flashlight next year? even if possible would that even be legal to produce such crazy lumens monster light?
I personally doubt we will see any flashlight regulations from any state anytime soon. There are much more emotional issues that really have no bearing on anything that our legislators consider to be far more important, like the banning of immigration, higher tariffs on imported goods, banning drivers licenses to all immigrants regardless of legal status, closing the southern border, and most importantly, more tax cuts for the wealthiest. These are all far more important and wil have to be addressed first.
California will prosecute anyone using the phrase “cool white” for being racist.
So does this mean someday you’re gonna challenge Polar-Li xenon to xenon? Becuz it looks like nothing right now except perhaps LEP even has a chance to remotely compete against an arc engine - unless you’re thinking of a recoil aspheric hyper LEP or something……IDK just throwing out crazy possibilities. :laughing: :person_facepalming:
Vinh has made 100k lumens custom flashlights before, I think they cost like $2k or something.
Problem is that it can’t sustain that for more than a few seconds.
I just spent $500 on a laser if that’s any indication.
Wooooo Hoooooo!!! I had a hunch you’d go ballz to the wallz.
Endy’s on the stalk.
Let’s see just to fun extrapolate. A stock W10 does ‘X’ meters. 7 X W10 does ‘XY’ meters and still could conceivably be ‘handheld’. A 7” aspheric lens plus a wavien collar coupled to a hyper laser capacitor-discharged mounted on a recoil arm firing on an HX Boost. Nah don’t get reediculous, Notta. Butt at least realistically there’s maybe inside 7 X 21700 = or a poop load of amps?
Polar’s gettin’ the watts-possible calc out.
The Sequel…….‘There Will Be Blood - In The Sky’ :laughing: 
Question
For the people who love throwers, why has the focus been LED if there looks like to be better options out there?
Short arc existed long before LED and it is still much better than LED for throwers, but it is much more difficult to build because it requires bulbs, high voltage, high heat, UV radiation, high cost, etc etc etc
So for a small handheld light it’s almost impossible to make a good one.
Laser phosphor technology has only been recently developed, most of the research papers and documentation are less than a decade old.
Also since it’s so new it’s also much more expensive than LED.
All kidding aside the term ‘Flashlight’ these days sure is getting streeeeeetched beyond reasonable coarse haired semantics.
I mean is this really a ‘flashlight’ as we commonly think of one?……
Nah IMO it’s not. It’s a frikkin spotlight, even a portable searchlight, butt c’mon to call something this big a flashlight is like calling a Hummer an SUV. :laughing: It’s an urban assault vehicle, man. :laughing:
Anyway while I admire Polar’s ingenuity calling it a ‘flashlight’ IMO is on the cusp of BS.
To me at least a ‘flashlight’ is something you can carry on your body in a pants or coat pocket leaving both hands free if necessary. Now for instance I CAN carry a TrustFire X100 in my back pants pocket by shoving the head in first. Readily could do it even if the tube was somewhat bigger than the head itself too. Is it practical? Not really butt it IS doable. Likewise a 6D MagLite. Subsequently those are still ‘flashlights’ IMO.
Is the BLF GT a flashlight? Yeah. I can’t shove the head in my back pocket butt I can shove the tube part in there no problem.
Take Polar’s ‘flashlight’ and he calls it such. IMO it’s a spotlight. Or even a portable searchlight. Like the Thor above. Butt a flashlight?
C’mon. :person_facepalming:
Imagine if you asked for a ‘flashlight’ and I handed you the Thor? You’d laff, right?
So for breaking records whether it’s lumens or lux I kinda hope we better enclose the term of what truly constitutes a flashlight sooner rather than later ’cuz the way this is going towing your entry into the competition will be acceptable too.
“Where’s your flashlight entry, Notta?”
“Oh, it’s on the trailer behind the F350. C’mon I’ll show ya the shoulder straps I rigged up.”
Anyway I must have a bug up my azz tonite. No wait it’s the X100. :laughing:
Well there is no exact definition of a flashlight other than it being a portable artificial light source.
Ok. Butt watt is considered a flashlight in vast common usage on this forum?
If you said I’m building a record-breaking spotlight I would think it’s FUNCTION is like a flashlight butt its FORM at least for me brings up a different image.
Then what is the difference between that spotlight you linked and the 300 million candlepower WW2 spotlights.
See, there is no exact definition, it’s all a gray area.