That is the coarsest threading I have ever seen on a lightā¦ orā¦ possibly an o-ring slot and a slot for a snap-on-clip. If it does screw together and cover the two slots, that seems like wasted space.
Yup. If those actually are double-o ring slots, that would be good design.
However, at the tailcap, the upper ledge of the āo-ring slotā seems like it would be too shallow to actually hold an o-ring. Screwing in the tailcap would push that o-ring out of position.
I really donāt think so. Unnecessary, and other aspects that I have observed on this image are troubling.
For starters, putting an o-ring into a rough bead-blasted groove with some shonky anodising is really not cool. If you want to create a seal, do it competently, or donāt bother. That means precise machined surface finish and materials selection. Slathering it with grease may also help. If you dive, you might understand this a little.
But since this is what it is, it probably doesnāt matter at-all to most customers.
Itās not as if we have even seen these supposed double o-rings in-situ. Well if two are better than one, why not three, or four where do you stop ?
Do it properly and one is enough. Two maybe for a dive torch, but that comes with downsides too. Double the maintenance, and you never really know whether either, or both, are serviceable. A bit like flying twin-engine planes.
Really. I highly recommend looking through maukkaās reviews to see graphs of the exact path the LED tint takes through color space as the power increases. In great detail, he has published quantified measurements of many different types of LEDs. Itās very useful information, well beyond what the manufacturers provide.
I think thatās a lot of the problem. If that is still the target price (though we have been warned it could be $6 more for Cree emitters (Samsung not yet sourced), then a Paypal tax on top, and the distribution method is unclear, etc. and Nealās history of getting his ducks in a row and getting stuff out in a timely manner is a little iffy)
Iād probably pay 10 or maybe even 20$ more to get what was originally promised, with some surety, if it still comes under the radar at Customs.
But really losing interest. Iāve vacillated I know and made myself a bit of a nuisance here. Still watching this space.
It really boils down to a communication thing, or the complete lack of it, which seems so unnecessary, and disappointing to those who are still trying so hard.
These sneaky pictures of possible work in progress just raise more questions than they answer. Perhaps that is the intention, to try to keep a buzz going, and keep us chattering. Not sure that is really helpful, some solid information, technical updates, posited timescale and professionalism would be more confidence building.
As well as actually sending some proto4s to those who matter.
Here is a paste of a separate rant that I decided not to post. But now have.
Of course this has to be producible, and compromises needed to meet a (very tight IMO) selling price target.
Surface finish is a really big one. It really does cost, to do it right, and everyone has their own opinion (though few will know just how well things can be done) . Sending it down the line with a known standard mediocre process is the easy way forwards, and maybe not such a bad decision.
Creative ātensionā between the designer, and the manufacturer and distribution people is to be expected, but itās how that gets sorted out behind the scenes that separates the dogmatic , maybe a little bit arrogant, perfectionist (who may have little if any experience of of a big project) from those who are just trying to get on with things and doing their best, having been asked for their help, and considerable skills and experience, gratis, and to open this up to the important BLF audience.
TBH Iād rather spend $10 or even $20 more and get something closer to the original concept. But timeās arrow continues to move forwards, and other things seem increasingly more interesting, and I donāt like to encourage desultory communication, disdain, and general disrespect for key team members, exemplified by not arranging to send them prototypes, and clamming up. Nor bothering to wake up and procure the requested emitters in good time. An attitude of indifference. And not a good omen for when a couple of thousand of us just want them delivered, cleanly and efficiently, and swiftly
Whatās to hide ? An ego-trip is one thing, pulling off something like this is quite another, and perhaps better to step aside and just let the pros finish it. E.g. quibbling over a requested 1mm dimension change (the man said no, perhaps he was right), for example.
Lumintop do know how to make torches, and there are competent and concerned people still sticking with this. Not sure why.
This was supposed to be really special. Now I doubt that.
Rant off. I promise to be nicer, for at least a few days. Please donāt press the re-named āWhatchaā button, no matter how tempting. But if you do, Iāll know what you did. Thatās still the way it works.
5708 posts on this thread at the last count. Since May 4 2017. Thatās a lot of interest, and time, committed by many people to it, no matter how you measure it. Hopefully not all just wasted because a few people, well, maybe over-promised, or just got out of their depth.
Hereās a suggestion. Fritz, or Cawi, just send TK your proto3 (or 4) and let her assess it. Then listen to what she has to say.
You might not like it, but better than just gathering dust on your shelf. Or gloating, Gollum-like, over āyour preciousā that may never happen, the way that this seems to be endlessly running on.
Speaking for myself, Iām on the interest list for one light, but Iāll more than likely be buying 2-3 more after the initial rush. Plus, Iām quite sure all my friends are gonna want one when they see mine. I think you could figure on 5-6x more demand than what has been voiced here. Not to mention other retail sales from recommendations on reddit or wherever else. I hope thatās motivation enough to get this into production ASAP. This flashlight will be a gold mine for those selling them.
55 posts, many of them tense, in about 12 hours because, after bemoaning the lack of photos or other updates, we (collectively) didnāt recognize a thread relief when a photo was finally posted.
Iām starting to think this thread should be locked until the light is ready to ship.