[♛ FreemeGB] Fireflies PL47 Gen II 4*XP-L/ Nichia/ SST20 Hi CRI 21700 Right Angle Flashlight - ALIVE

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aginthelaw wrote:
I got mine. Using a 15a vapcell with the caved in top and it works perfectly. I was able to use my niteye ha30, Valkyrie pl1, and novatac edc60 in my headband with no problem. I’m sure I’ll find one to fit this in my stash somewhere

Which led did you order ? How is the beam using outdoor ?

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Texas Toasted, Weller 107 doesn’t freeze in the freezer. Wink (no ice necessary)

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Xpl hi v3 3a

It looks great in the woods. Indoors not so much. Very diffuse beam. Not hot spotty. I still wasn’t able to see what was stalking me tonight. I didn’t see the reflection of eyes in the under brush, but I heard it.

never fear shadows…it means a light shines nearby

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cujo255 wrote:
So 17 Track finally shows a status, I got the shipping notice email on Nov 27 from Jack with a tracking number. The tracking gave no information until now which says my item was accepted today, Dec 13 …… but still in China.
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2018-12-13 02:16CHINA, Acceptance -> Your item was accepted at 2:16 am on December 13, 2018 in CHINA.

I get the sinking feeling I’m on the 35 day end of the delivery window.

I’m in the exact same slowboat from China as you.

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An update on the hard to press switch- I set the light on a scale and slowly pressed down with the tip of my finger until the light turned on. It typically operates at around 3.5 pounds.
If I try using the flat of my thumb, the way I would normally carry and operate this type of light, I cannot press hard enough to activate the switch. If I use the tip of my thumb, it takes around 10 pounds of force to activate the light, but this is really hard for me to do in my hand. I have to support the base of the light with my pinkie finger and contort my hand so my thumb can press more with the tip than with the flat. Very uncomfortable
I’m not going to say this is a design flaw; it’s a great design to avoid accidental activation if you want to carry the light in your pocket, it’s just not comfortable for me to operate the narrow, recessed switch boot.

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I hope they all don’t look like that.

Jack, whomever is doing final assembly needs a swift kick in the public area. This is what happens from rushing products to market. Please slow down, you’re about to become the latest train wreck that almost was a big success. Move too fast and you run off the tracks. Buyer confidence is dropping; many people are not touching the E07 now despite the great design, including me. You can keep feeding the alligator but it’s not sustainable and rebuilding your reputation is harder than just slowing down now and regrouping. You may go from hero to zero if we see this kind of thing with the E07, and I have to expect we will.

PS sorry for the cruddy metaphors. I hope you take heed.

Sleddogger wrote:
Got mine last night. I Love love love the tint of the 219b, but I’d guess it’s really sitting at around 800lm on high. It really doesn’t like my Samsung 50e, if I screw it up tight the light won’t work, unscrew half a turn and it kinda works but can flicker like theres a loose connection.
It works fine with my 18650 cells :-/

Before I go back to FF can you guys tell me if the top part looks ok?
The reflectors look damaged and should the hole in the plastic be there?
!{width:50%}https://darfinnan.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/20181212_070712.jpg!

Nokoff..still Made in China 山寨主義

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nokoff wrote:
I hope they all don’t look like that.

Jack, whomever is doing final assembly needs a swift kick in the public area. This is what happens from rushing products to market. Please slow down, you’re about to become the latest train wreck that almost was a big success. Move too fast and you run off the tracks. Buyer confidence is dropping; many people are not touching the E07 now despite the great design, including me. You can keep feeding the alligator but it’s not sustainable and rebuilding your reputation is harder than just slowing down now and regrouping. You may go from hero to zero if we see this kind of thing with the E07, and I have to expect we will.

PS sorry for the cruddy metaphors. I hope you take heed.

Nicely said nokoff.

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Now if you can get Jack to say that Smile

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Been just over 5 days since FireFlies logged in. Perhaps Freeme can shed some light on concerns and lack of communication.

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saypat wrote:
Now if you can get Jack to say that Smile

good luck with that!!

Caving, Climbing, Mountaineering, Kayaking, Diving etc any time anywhere!!! If you in the UK let me know and lets Play!
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Olight X7R,M2R,S1 Baton,S10R Baton 3m,S2R 2, I1R EOS,SofirnC8T,Lenser P7'2,Lenser P14,BLF A6,Fenix HL50,HM50R,HL55,CL05,HL05,CL09,CL25,Nitecore HC30,HC65,NU12,NU32,Astolux K1,Petzl E-light,Tikka Xp3,XP3LED,DUO,Atomlight,Xtar Warboys H3,PL47 Manker E03H and many Chinese ones

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Nite Shadow wrote:
Been just over 5 days since FireFlies logged in. Perhaps Freeme can shed some light on concerns and lack of communication.

lol now that would be good..we have not heard from him in 6days when we report issues!

Caving, Climbing, Mountaineering, Kayaking, Diving etc any time anywhere!!! If you in the UK let me know and lets Play!
Current lighting
Olight X7R,M2R,S1 Baton,S10R Baton 3m,S2R 2, I1R EOS,SofirnC8T,Lenser P7'2,Lenser P14,BLF A6,Fenix HL50,HM50R,HL55,CL05,HL05,CL09,CL25,Nitecore HC30,HC65,NU12,NU32,Astolux K1,Petzl E-light,Tikka Xp3,XP3LED,DUO,Atomlight,Xtar Warboys H3,PL47 Manker E03H and many Chinese ones

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Has Anyone also noticed that the clip is difficult to hook on a pocket? Because the clip ends just before the tailcap. So the tailcap covers the clip kind of, takes a bit of fiddling to hook it on.. I suck at explaining things in english.. sry
So i find it rather difficult..

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Sleddogger wrote:
Got mine last night. I Love love love the tint of the 219b, but I’d guess it’s really sitting at around 800lm on high. It really doesn’t like my Samsung 50e, if I screw it up tight the light won’t work, unscrew half a turn and it kinda works but can flicker like theres a loose connection.
It works fine with my 18650 cells :-/

Before I go back to FF can you guys tell me if the top part looks ok?
The reflectors look damaged and should the hole in the plastic be there?
!{width:50%}https://darfinnan.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/20181212_070712.jpg!


have the same issue regarding the optics

https://postimg.cc/gallery/327wcbd48/ big pics.

They have pits/dig marks in and looks like a pin is snapped too…

Caving, Climbing, Mountaineering, Kayaking, Diving etc any time anywhere!!! If you in the UK let me know and lets Play!
Current lighting
Olight X7R,M2R,S1 Baton,S10R Baton 3m,S2R 2, I1R EOS,SofirnC8T,Lenser P7'2,Lenser P14,BLF A6,Fenix HL50,HM50R,HL55,CL05,HL05,CL09,CL25,Nitecore HC30,HC65,NU12,NU32,Astolux K1,Petzl E-light,Tikka Xp3,XP3LED,DUO,Atomlight,Xtar Warboys H3,PL47 Manker E03H and many Chinese ones

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Just few pics of mine next to my other EDC’s it performs well without any problems, fun and pratical for me Thumbs Up




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Tom Tom wrote:
HONDARIDER wrote:
My SST-20 version has not come in yet. Got my XPL-HI 2 weeks ago. Has anyone not recieved their order yet?

Wrong question. How many have received their orders (and what do they think of them on mature reflection). And how many have not, yet ? Sorted by emitter types, surface finish, and hopefully a slowdown to fix teething problems and apply continuous product improvement. We can only hope, and wait.

I assume that you pre-ordered before this thing existed, so hoped that they would miraculously all be created, and shipped, in every emitter variant, on the promised “day one” well in time for Christmas, and that they would meet, or surpass, expectations, so are anxious.

If you ordered later (still a pre-order) you might legitimately expect to be in a queue in time order, and at least told approximately when yours might be shipped.

Bye the way, I don’t see how a PayPal claim could succeed, unless the torch fails totally within 180 days. As long as it still lights up. Study your local Ts and Cs.

But that’s not actually how it works.

“When did you stop beating your wife” could be a similarly useless question, with no possible answer.

“Anyone, not, yet, received”, is un-answerable by anyone, except those who have “not yet received”, who can by definition, have no useful information to contribute. Those who have received theirs might have useful information to add.

Best stick to questions with yes/no answers, and learn about the process of delivery from China, and their attitudes to customer service. And learn patience.

Also the difference between a shipping or tracking notice, and the reality of the physical thing actually existing and having been delivered into the network (numbers, strange tracking data from unknown sources that you have to try to discover and extract yourself, sometimes even works, even paperwork, usually precede the physical delivery, and are easily gamed, particularly when PayPal rules apply, get your clawbacks in early, don’t waste time or leave it to the last minute.)

Not saying that has been happening here, but it is not unusual.

That sure was a lot for such a simple question.
I was looking for “I have not received mine yet as well.”
What’s going on Tom Tom? Bad day?
Best wishes buddy, hope things get better for you. I have prayed for you already.

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When I unscrew the battery tube a little to lock out the light a very brief and tiny red flash occurs from something near the centre of the lens. Can anyone explain this phenomenon?

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HONDARIDER

My order is with yours. I received this notice:

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Your item was accepted at 2:16 am on December 13, 2018 in CHINA.

from USPS
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cloggy wrote:
When I unscrew the battery tube a little to lock out the light a very brief and tiny red flash occurs from something near the centre of the lens. Can anyone explain this phenomenon?

Red aux LEDS indicate a low battery on all FireFlies models. ToyKeeper could explain it better but basically They blip as you cut power. If you hold turning the tube or tailcap at the point where the torch barely gets any current, just before lockout, the red may actually stay on because it’s reading low current. I should say voltage, not current. The red aux indicate low battery voltage. That’s all, it’s a good design.

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leaftye wrote:
The E07 I had ordered through Neal was supposed to have red aux LED’s, which I quickly realized wasn’t a good idea, but I wasn’t going to cancel it over that especially since I was curious to see how low battery state would be indicated if it actually arrived with red aux LED’s.

I also ordered the E07 from Neal with red aux LEDs. Interestingly, red is not an option when ordering directly from FireFlies. Is it an exclusive for Neal’s site?
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HONDARIDER wrote:
My SST-20 version has not come in yet. Got my XPL-HI 2 weeks ago. Has anyone not recieved their order yet?

On Nov 19 I got a notice saying: Your item was picked up by a shipping partner at 10:07 pm on November 18, 2018 in FREMONT, CA 94538. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date.

Nothing since. I ordered SST-20 also, if that has anything to do with it.

Please illuminate responsibly

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leaftye wrote:
Is yours on the way?

My Gray E07 ordered from Neal hasn’t shipped yet. I expected when I placed the order that Neal would not be getting a shipment of units from FireFlies until after they’ve shipped out the first batch of their own orders.
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Mine is on the way. I ordered the Nichia 219B version. I have a Samsung 50E 21700 but reading back through this thread, it doesn’t seem to fit well. Does anyone have a recommendation on a 21700 battery to use in it that’s suitable for the 219B.

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Many thanks for the illuminating replies- I am always impressed with the breadth of knowledge available here.

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My PL47, not ordered through this group buy, showed that it landed in Denver Colorado, then went to Chicago, and now it’s off the grid again with no guesstimate as to when it should be here. But hey, it’s active anyway! lol

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Man Without Shadow wrote:
Sofirn 21700 batts are too wide for the tube…>sigh<

I tried using the Sofirn 4000mAh 21700 (this came with the Sofirn C8F 21700 bundled kit, as Sofirn cannot ship bare batteries to my country) on my Fireflies PL47 and they fit, although it’s a relatively tight fit..

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Same here, no issues with Sofirn 21700 on mine. Got black SST-20 4000K.

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nokoff wrote:
I hope they all don’t look like that.

Jack, whomever is doing final assembly needs a swift kick in the public area. This is what happens from rushing products to market. Please slow down, you’re about to become the latest train wreck that almost was a big success. Move too fast and you run off the tracks. Buyer confidence is dropping; many people are not touching the E07 now despite the great design, including me. You can keep feeding the alligator but it’s not sustainable and rebuilding your reputation is harder than just slowing down now and regrouping. You may go from hero to zero if we see this kind of thing with the E07, and I have to expect we will.

PS sorry for the cruddy metaphors. I hope you take heed.

Sleddogger wrote:
Got mine last night. I Love love love the tint of the 219b, but I’d guess it’s really sitting at around 800lm on high. It really doesn’t like my Samsung 50e, if I screw it up tight the light won’t work, unscrew half a turn and it kinda works but can flicker like theres a loose connection.
It works fine with my 18650 cells :-/

Before I go back to FF can you guys tell me if the top part looks ok?
The reflectors look damaged and should the hole in the plastic be there?
!{width:50%}https://darfinnan.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/20181212_070712.jpg!

Two more observations, look carefully, at around the 4 o’clock position, and I think I see a green wire trapped between the edge of the driver and the head. Also displacing the driver sideways. Maybe even a black wire as well.

I don’t see any witness marks on the driver or tail PCB contact rings, where the ends of the tube should have been making firm contact. Perhaps the torch is too new for these to have developed yet.

These witness marks were useful to study the poor contact problems of the first batch Q8, and might also be useful to study for those with PL47 issues. In the Q8, some went so far as to try inserting a ring of solid copper wire, to improve marginal contacts, and/or smoothing the uneven surface of the first Q8 tubes using e.g. some fine grit sandpaper on a flat piece of glass.

Ideally the witness marks should be even, and continuous over the full circumference, once developed.

Also consider simply measuring the length of the tube, the length of your cell, then the compressed length of each spring (that’s the tricky one), and do the calculation.

I still don’t like the look of the soldering of the springs to the PCBs, I see little evidence that the solder has wetted, or that there is sufficient quantity.

PS:, my apologies to the forum for being even grumpier than usual, and taking it out on some of you. Yes, I have been having to cope with a truly stressful situation for many months. But that’s no excuse.

Thank you for being so patient and tolerant.

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See post 1382. The black lights and the gold lights have different tube dimensions.

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As it’s my first multiemiter TIR flashlight I’m not sure how optics should look like so I’m just gonna post this pic and you tell me.

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