[♛ FreemeGB] Fireflies PL47 Gen II 4*XP-L/ Nichia/ SST20 Hi CRI 21700 Right Angle Flashlight - ENDED

Left : XPL Hi V3 3A 5000K
Center : SST20 10W NW 4000K CRI95
Right : Nichia 219B-V1 R9080

Yes :+1:

I’ve tested with my smartphone, high/turbo mode at 1m :

XPL Hi V3 3A 5000K : ~11 500 / ~29 000 lux
SST20 10W NW 4000K CRI95 : ~9 800 / ~21 000 lux
Nichia 219B-V1 R9080 : ~4 900 / ~9 000 lux

I’m curious if anyone in Canada has a working tracking number. I was giving a Deutche Post tracking number on Nov 18 so I assume they are consolidating shipments in Germany, but there is no tracking data. It’s registered mail so there will be nothing available on the Canadian end.

Nope, absolutely nothing.

Before you decide to give it away, try to use it outdoors a bit. If you just shine it on a white wall, it might look too warm if the light fixtures in your house are CW. However, at nighttime outdoors, I find my E21A 4000k and 219B 4500k resemble sunlight the most. Colors are much more saturated too. CW light looks more like light from a cloudy day.

It’s kind of frustrating because at least the insanely slow ePacket shipments from China for previous FF orders showed they were actually mailed at the origin. Either the German tracking isn’t working or they haven’t even made it to Germany to be re-shipped yet.

I have the impression that the reason tracking has not been updated once is because of the ceasing of international shipments to Canada.

So, unless Fireflies shipped via Direct Mail/Express shipping, there will be no tracking of sorts.

Which is very puzzling since Sofirn actually shipped using Direct Mail during the strike, and actually has tracking back in Winnipeg, with a cheaper overall package.

The Sofirn lights got shipped earlier than the PL47, and yet, I might get it before the PL47.

I wonder how the lux figures would compare at an equivalent regulated output. If high is the pwm ramp ceiling driven on FET, the SST and xpl can be driven harder meanwhile the 219b output curve reaches it’s max potential. At a regulated level, I would think 219b would do better relative to its current standing based on high and Turbo.

The lux reading is so much higher on the SST-20 because it has higher illuminance/throwier beam.

Royal Mail and other international postal services resumed shipments to Canada right after the strike ended almost three weeks ago. There should at least be tracking at Deutsche Post if the packages have been dispatched from Germany (Canada Post disabled tracking on inbound registered mail in 2015). It would be nice to hear from Freeme/FF whether shipments to Canada have actually been mailed yet.

I got my PL47 in today. Black body, blue board lights with purple switch lights. Looks sharp, the SST-20 95 CRI emitters are a pleasing tint, as it so happens it is very close to what I get from the mixed tints of 17 emitters in my 458 Ham’r, so it’s a big win! :smiley:

Now, to decide, gift it to my Son-in-law (a monster I created) or keep it and find him something else? lol

My aux leds are also similar to the D4S on low, the PL47 aux might be slightly brighter. I don’t think they are adjustable like the D4S right?

Also can anyone confirm if a Samsung 30T is ok to use with XPL HI? Ever since fireflies issued the warning I haven’t tested the 30T on turbo. I’m running a 40T but I think the 30T might be brighter? :sunglasses:

The 30T will be brighter but I think the 40T is a better option. The flashlight will get very hot very quickly already with the 40T, so I think the 30T is not worth the shorter runtime and shorter high/turbo. Note that the 40T already has higher current than the 18650’s and 26650’s.

I’d use the 30T with the E07, that has 7 emitters.

The Aux lights have low high and locator settings, if I remember correctly from just a little while ago. It’s boxed back up…

Edit: Sorry, the Aux has low, locator, and off. In low the switch LED’s are all lit, in locator only two are constant and the other two flash with the main board LED’s. When the Aux lights on the main board are turned off, only two of the switch LED’s are lit.

I had hoped to get the mixed board LED’s like TK did, purple and blue would have been cool, but mine are all blue.

Running it on an iJoy 21700.

Good idea! However, would 7 emitters and 30T possibly damage XPL HI (my preferred LED) with too much heat?

I am sorry if I missed it, but was anyone able to reproduce the 5000 lumens claimed by Fireflies for the XPL-Hi versions? The maximum output measured in this thread was 4405 with lower readings for other 21700 batteries.

Aux leds are not adjustable - on off -or blink only

This I can vouch for in reference to the 40t’s. I recieved my two XPL HI’s today along with my charger to charge the 40t’s. They charged quick enough that I was able to take them out for some play time tonight and cclight is correct in saying these babies get extremely hot already. To the point that I was having to hold on to the tailcap. On the flip side of that coin, it only gets that hot when running on turbo or at the top of the ramp. I ramped about half way up and the light never did really get hot yet still provided plenty of useable light. I’ve been a zebralight fan boy for years but if this light continues to grow on me, it’ll be my new go to headlamp. In fact, thinking about maybe getting an SST version as well.

I will add that the magnets were glued in even though I requested them not to be, and I should have recieved four headbands but only recieved three. I ordered one for each since I was uncertain if I was gonna recieve the free ones.

No. The firmware has thermal protection and will reduce output when the temperature raises too much. Also, the E07 has almost twice the number of emitters, and the 30T doesn’t give this much more current than other batteries. Given that other quad flashlights work fine (with other batteries), we can be sure that the leds will have no problem in the E07 with the 30T.

Not sure what planet you tested your 30T’s on cclight, but mine give far more current in most lights than any other cell I’ve tested against them, and I’ve tested a lot. If there is a potential for a high draw, the 30T far and away excels.

Edit: Ok, so I did a little test…
I used the 458 Ham’r with it’s 17 emitters and 5 MOSFET’s to just find out what cell gives what… :smiley: For this test I used a single cell powering the Ham’r, 10 top cells in 4 sizes, couple of surprises… for the record, in the 21700 class the nearest competitor is ranked 8th, with 20700’s in the 6th and 7th spots. Enjoy!

1. Samsung 21700 30T ————- 30.3A
2. Samsung 18650 25S ————- 28.0A
3. Golisi 26650 Gold ————— 27.0A
4. Sony 18650 C5A ——————- 26.2A
5. Samsung 18650 30Q ————- 24.9A
6. Sanyo 20700A Red —————- 24.5A
7. Efest 20700 3000mAh ———- 23.4A
8. iJoy 21700 3750mAh ———— 20.4A
9. LiitoKala 5000mAh (Black) - 19.5A
10. LG 18650 HG2 ——————— 16.7A