How Zebralight ended my flashlight collecting...(For Now)

You could start a “want to buy” thread here.

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I’m not that Hank, I’m the other one

WTB Emisar D4 2.0 with the following features:

  • RampingIOS V3 or Anduril
  • Option for Oslon Square LED (not sure if these fit on XP footprint though)
  • One-piece head and body tube for much better thermal management (like a Zebra).
  • Body tube fitted for 21700.
  • Knurled body tube

I fail to understand this too.
Sure, regulated buck/ boost drivers have many components, and buck or boost drivers have more components than regulated FET drivers, and FET DD drivers have very few components, but i can’t see why they can’t put nice drivers in budget lights for 2 or 3 $ more either.
I guess it’s not a selling point for the targeted buyers…
It would increase the price by 25% sometimes…

It would be great if more brands sold their drivers separately, like Sofirn and Convoy do.
Skilhunt and Nitecore have nice buck and boost drivers too.

As for Zebralights, i think some of them look really nice, and the quality must be great too, judging by the price…
But too expensive for me to try if i like them…

One of these days. I keep reading how everyone that owns one loves it. I don’t think I can recall a bad review or experience with the company. I am slowly seeing price creep in my purchases.

I have own several in the past. I sold them all.
I did not like the UI. The tint was a lottery, I did get a sc62 with nice WW tint.
Now you have read how someone that owned several didn’t love them.

Wait, I still have a H50 in my foot locker. Its 3 speed twisty.

I didn’t know Skilhunt uses buck boost drivers. Do you know which models?
I’ve been trying to figure out what kind of driver the H03 uses but its not clear to me.

Thanks

IMHO, the admiration and cult following towards Zebralight is legendary and well deserved. I just wish they were easier to disassemble… so reverse engineering could be better facilitated! :smiley:

I still own a nice reliable S6330 (3 x XM-L with 3 x 18650) that I break out from time to time to admire its design perfection and efficient independent 3 channel boost driver with thermal throttle. It was way ahead of its time and still far better built than most other lights in its price range. Now if I could just remove the driver without destroying the entire light so I could re-flow new emitters. The driver is double sided with integral emitters on a single mcpcb. Great for efficiency and compact size, but not so good for mod junkies.

Similar as chadvone. I have bought zebralight headlight, because all the praises I’ve heard. It’s well made, light output is good, I like the low lumen modes, but that UI is terrible and unintuitive (for me). Because of that, I don’t plan to buy any other zebralights.

Latest crop of Zebralights has a programmable UI.

Pretty easy to program for the following:
single click - low or moonlight
click and hold - medium
double-click - turbo

Here’s hoping for a ZL with mag ring UI controlling an E21a/Optisolis Quatrix.

The driver efficiency is great. The host / build quality is good. Ergonomics are usually pretty decent. Overall size is usually quite compact. Output is generally pretty good, and spans a wide range from super-low to reasonably high. A variety of emitters are available.

However, the UI isn’t great, the tint is usually not very white or very consistent, it’s extremely mod-unfriendly, many of the emitter choices aren’t great, the lens coating tends to make the beam green, recent models crush batteries, and the prices tend to be relatively high.

It’s a mixed bag, so it really depends on what you value in a light.

I use a H52Fw for headlamp purposes, though I’ve been meaning to make a nicer custom one sometime. Otherwise my only ZebraLight use these days is to occasionally pull out a SC52 as a lumen measurement reference.

Do the new ones have mode memory?

Um… sort of?

The mode memory, if it can be called that, remembers six things in the default mode group, and nine things in each of the two extra mode groups, plus one more thing in the strobe group. So if viewed from a certain angle, it has 25 mode memories.

But if you want it to automatically come on in whatever mode you were last using, no. It doesn’t have that.

Well, sort of. In G6 or G7, it can be programmed to use the 1-click slot in a manner similar to mode memory… but it takes a minimum of 15 clicks to change the level, so I don’t think that really “counts”.

TL;DR: No, not really.

Didn’t think so. Simple mode memory is a big plus for me.

No, those are buck drivers.
Buck / boost drivers are rare.
But the H15 probably has one because it is dual chemistry (NiMH and LiIon)
It seems the Klarus Ci1C has a buck / boost driver too, to boost for CR123A and to buck for LiIon, als depending on the modes.

K. :slight_smile:

I feel your pain. I purchased that light twice…unseen…once was from a reputable dealer around here that I will not mention. He even said it wasn’t green…when I got it I wanted to puke. Drove me away from ZL. Guess it was the luck of the draw coz others swore there was NO GREEN…. :smiling_imp: :confounded:

That said, ZLis one light I would have to purchase in person.

Currently I own ZERO ZL’s :disappointed:

Older Zebralights (a few years ago) tended to be somewhat green, and the tint lottery could be pretty wild. But my last few Zebralights (SC5w, SC600w HI, SC600w Plus, and SC64w HI) are all very nice.

The greenest one I have is the SC600w MkIV Plus, which uses a domed Cree XHP50.2 emitter. Overall, it’s a decent tint, but white-wall hunting will show a bit of green/yellow in the corona, typical of domed Crees. Here’s my white-wall shot of the beam (auto-exposure, auto white-balance):

IMO, it’s not too bad, and it’s my worst one in the past few years. (SC52’s are worse, but they are several years old.) The ones I like best are the ones with the XHP35 HI emitter, that is, the SC600w MkIV HI and the SC64w HI. Those are very nice tints, clean and even beam, no hint of green.

Basically, if you want to avoid tint shifts in the beam of any light, stay away from domed Cree emitters. The XHP35 HI gives very nice beams.

As for the user interface, that is totally subjective. IMO, it’s the best thing about Zebralights, and I love the programability they added last year. It makes me dislike the user interface on all my other lights, even though many do have decent interfaces.

DMAN, I purchased a sc64w in part because of your post.

Thank you. It is all that.

as headlamps go i think the ui is the best,you can get to what ever level you want very easily ,i think the zebralight ui is exellent