6x 30Qs and 6x VTC6s. These are my first VTC6s so I cannot compare, but the 30Qs physically look the same as the others I got from BG in the past (haven’t done testing yet).
I used these guys in the UK last week
EcoLux: http://www.ecoluxshopdirect.co.uk/
All good, no problems.
So, now, some capacity tests!
I’m using my own battery holder with my own large Beryllium Copper spring, which allows accurate capacity testing up to 3A without a 4 wire method.
-I first started testing the NCR18650GA at 2A current, with a charge voltage of 4,185V and ending voltage of 2,6V.
Capacity at 2,6V, being 3308mAh.
Energy at 2,6V, being 11,56Wh.
Capacity at 2,8V to compare with HKJ.
Nothing checks out, so I can confidently say NCR18650GAs from the Aliya Battery Store are legit
-For the Samsung 30Q, it has been tested at 3A, with an ending voltage of 2,6V and charge voltage of 4,191V.
Capacity at 2,6V, being 2963mAh.
Energy at 2,6V, being 10,28Wh.
Capacity at 2,8V, being 2865mAh.
Energy at 2,8V, being 10,05Wh.
With the tests in mind, I can confidently say that the Samsung 30Q from Aliya Battery Store is legitimate
To end on a final note, my results are quite precise, with good accuracy, but on each of the tests, I did not account for the voltage drop of 0,05V during the tests because of the XT60 connectors and wiring, which may slightly have affected energy tests due to lower overall voltage on discharge.
Therefore, all batteries from the Aliya Battery Store, as of December 2018, are all considered legitimate, can be ordered from the link below:
Can these cells be used where button tops are specified?
In most cases, yes.
But not all cases are positive. Still better than other flat tops though.
Too bad they don’t sell button tops.
@BlueSwordM, do you know if these raised flat tops would work in a Meteor M43 or the 26650 in a DQG Tiny 26650?
Thanks for all the info and testing.
The raised flat tops NCR18650GAs work in my BLF Q8, so it would work in the Meteor M43.
Awesome, thanks!
Struggling to find any reliable store to ship to South Africa since Banggood stopped again.
I now have more flashlights/powerbanks than batteries, a sad state of affairs.
I have tried all the recommended international ones in this thread, no luck so far.
Anyone have any ideas?
G-R-E-A-T T-H-R-E-A-D
INTERNAL RESISTANCE TESTING FOR THE SAMSUNG 30Q 
Here is a chart with some DC internal resistance values.
The 30Q has 21mOhms of internal resistance according to this graph.
And with my measurement, a minimum measured DC internal resistance of 21mOhm!
Right on spec! Actually, better than most 30Qs. 
I can therefore say again, that the 30Q from the Aliya Battery Store is a legit cell.
So, for Canadians all around the country, you can be assured to get legitimate cells from Aliya’s Battery Store. It does take about a month, so not too bad from China at all:
Very useful information.
Can you edit the first post in this thread and mark the verified stores with for example “Legit”?
:+1: :+1:
Unfortunately, it looks like Aliya’s Battery Store has recently been severely cutting back on their selection.
Hopefully this isn’t an ill omen regarding their continued existence…
Ok wtf is happening there.
That’s really sad. No more 30Qs.
I am sorry to say, while that there is a 90% chance they ARE NOT genuine cells. Where does it so in the Ad that they ARE Sanyo. It’s all in the wording the part number is the same NCR18650GA which is considered ok with many products BUT they say FOR Sanyo, not just Sanyo. This is an old trick to get the customer to associate with the brand name
Yes there are many good quality Chinese cells out there now and these will be very similar specs and will test the same, but it is sold under misleading advertising. I would just prefer to actually buy good quality Chinese cells under there own name like BAK.
Well, you do know that I both tested the NCR18650GA and Samsung 30Q from the Aliya store with physical comparison, capacity testing, and internal resistance?
If a cell has quite literally every characteristic of other legitimate cells that I have, then I consider it legitimate.
I agree, they may be fine cells. I am just saying they arnt actually advertised as SANYO so there is a good chance they are not. As a 2 second search, i find these cells. With a red wrapper they would look like a Sanyo, they would probably test the same as a GA too.
I wouldn’t touch any Liitokala cells from a mile away though.
mud_muncher, first of all let me say the “FOR whatever” thing is pretty common and it may have something to do with the present chinese struggling with occidental languages. Have you paid attention to AliExpress' machine translation of customer reviews? It's so awful :facepalm: I often disable translation and use Google's translator.
On the other hand, li-ion cells are an industrial product not meant for end consumers. This is a very important fact. The big OEMs already got involved in sending written warnings to some li-ion cell retailers to notify them they were oficially not allowed to sell their industrial batteries to consumers. Hope you can now better understand, mud_muncher. 
:-)