I just searched and had no luck. Someone, I think TK, mentioned different optics that could easily be switched in and out, for more throw, different beam patterns, or whatnot. Does anyone know where I can find this info?
From my notes:
Quote:
Upgrades / Verbesserungen / Mods
• 3x Optic http://www.carclo-optics.com/optic-10507
bzw. Toykeeper suggested http://www.carclo-optics.com/optic-10511
• 4x Optic: The Carclo optic is most efficient with the XP-G2 emitter, so the de-domed variant gives better throw vs an HI. It’s not always about absolute lumens, but of course the XP-L2 would be the way to go there.
• TK bei der FW3A: I still think Carclo 10511 is Where It’s At.
For XP-G2, the official specs are:
10507: 4.8 cd/lm
10511: 5.5 cd/lm
For XP-G3, the ratings are lower:
10507: 3.1 cd/lm
10511: 2.7 cd/lm
Nichia 219c has similar ratings:
10507: 3.3 cd/lm
10511: 2.9 cd/lm
Not sure why the relative throwiness reverses sometimes, but the 10511’s throw increases if you polish the frosted part by rubbing it on fabric or something… and afterward it still has less corona artifacts than the 10507. It’s too bad they don’t seem to come in a non-frosted 10511 variety.
Here are a few configuration estimates, taking into account the optic specs and an estimated lumen count:
219c w/ 10507: ~3000 lm, ~9.9 kcd lux
219c w/ 10511: ~2950 lm, ~8.5 kcd lux
XP-G2 w/ 10507: ~2500 lm, ~11.9 kcd lux
XP-G2 w/ 10511: ~2400 lm, ~13.2 kcd lux
XP-G3 w/ 10507: ~3600 lm, ~11.1 kcd lux
XP-G3 w/ 10511: ~3500 lm, ~9.5 kcd lux
XP-L HI w/ 10507: ~3350 lm, (no cd/lm data available, guessing ~18.7 kcd lux)
XP-L HI w/ 10511: ~3300 lm, (no cd/lm data available, guessing ~20.8 kcd lux)
These are all totally theoretical though, using numbers from Carclo’s specs and measurements of similar lights. They’re probably pretty far off from reality. Mostly I just wanted to show that there are a variety of sweet spots for different use cases. The FW3A’s specified config is one of those sweet spots, but other options might be interesting later too.
Mostly, I just think the 10511’s beam looks a lot smoother, and the difference in throw is usually small. Here’s how they compare in two of my lights… 10507 on the left, 10511 on the right:
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnWO8iN4Fzg
Q: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1169779#comment-1169779
• Clear optics 1057
The 10507 has the biggest numbers on paper, but…
It makes an ugly beam. I hear it looks okay with LH351D, but on every emitter I’ve tried in one, I end up hating the beam. It produces a rainbow effect and lots of artifacts.
The 10511 (matt) can be polished to increase throw, if desired, and from what I hear, it can throw better than the 10507 after being polished. Afterward it has more visible artifacts, but the beam still ends up looking nicer than a 10507.
I agree, loving what I see and grateful to the people keeping it moving.
I believe it was said very early on that 18350 was out of the question. I might be wrong because I can’t find any mention of it now. It is late though… Time for bed…
I believe it was said very early on that 18350 was out of the question. I might be wrong because I can’t find any mention of it now. It is late though… Time for bed…
Yes, you remember correctly and it was pretty early on. It’s in the first post in the “FAQ” section.
Please put me on the list for a second light (so 2 in total).
The grey anodised version looks awesome and reminds me so much of Peter Gransee’s ARC4 flashlight circa 2004 (actually designed by HDS Systems)… I remember waiting with baited breath for that one as well!
Actually, if you look at the specs, there was much in the ARC4 that we see today – microprocessor control, fully regulated, user selectable brightness levels – all that and a vast 30 lumens for just a couple of hundred bucks – well, it was 15 years ago!
Huge thanks to the FW3A team and especially to TK for making this all possible, otherwise we’d still be stuck back in 2004….
By the way, separate from all the insistent noise in this thread, quite a few of us are just quietly but regularly checking in on the thread, keeping patient. We appreciate all who have put in efforts to bring this project to fruition.
Sign me up!
Psyched to see this still moving forward. Thanks TK.
From my notes:
Which version of Anduril does it currently have and are there any significant/noticeable differences to the latest version?
EDIT: found it…
thank you TK!
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So good looking.
Can you please put me down for one more unit (2 in total), thanks.
ToyKeeper, you Rock..!!!
Please add me for another unit in addition to my previous unit (Total = 2 units).
Thanks.
Huge Thank You to tatasal and ToyKeeper for giving us an update and keeping this project alive!
I think proto4 looks fantastic!!!
On a side note, has there been any talk of a short 18350 tube for it?
Please put me down for 2 more (4 total)
I agree, loving what I see and grateful to the people keeping it moving.
I believe it was said very early on that 18350 was out of the question. I might be wrong because I can’t find any mention of it now. It is late though… Time for bed…
Yes, you remember correctly and it was pretty early on. It’s in the first post in the “FAQ” section.
Thanks for the updates ToyKeeper. I’m still super stoked for this. Still have money set aside for my three.
The latest proto still looks great to me. I like bare finish look but this is very nice too!
any photos of the light actually ON
That would be nice.
… but not critical. It’s a triple using a standard Carclo optic. Beam should look like any other triple with the same emitters using the same optic.
I was thinking more of proof of life
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I asked for a photo of the driver on the battery side, I got a written description.
Call me crazy, but sometimes I just like to see a flashlight turned on.
Please put me down for one more unit (2 in total), thanks!
I’d also get one more – 2 in total and each with different emiter.
There’s also this:
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1162623#comment-1162623
… and this:
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1236354#comment-1236354
Proof of life just came in about an hour ago, taken at Lumintop’s office.
This is XPLHI 3D, ~4875K. (Driver issues reportedly already addressed and fixed.)
Thanks, TK and Tatasal
I’m in for one LH351D, please and thank you!
I’m in for TWO with LH351D. THX!
Please put me on the list for a second light (so 2 in total).
The grey anodised version looks awesome and reminds me so much of Peter Gransee’s ARC4 flashlight circa 2004 (actually designed by HDS Systems)… I remember waiting with baited breath for that one as well!
Actually, if you look at the specs, there was much in the ARC4 that we see today – microprocessor control, fully regulated, user selectable brightness levels – all that and a vast 30 lumens for just a couple of hundred bucks – well, it was 15 years ago!
Huge thanks to the FW3A team and especially to TK for making this all possible, otherwise we’d still be stuck back in 2004….
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Thanks for the recent updates!
By the way, separate from all the insistent noise in this thread, quite a few of us are just quietly but regularly checking in on the thread, keeping patient. We appreciate all who have put in efforts to bring this project to fruition.
Looks awesome, thanks for all the hard work you put in to make this possible. All people that made it possible.
Also, instead of 1 of each emitter, i would like to change to 2 of LH351D 4000K 90CRI.
Thanks
Im in for 2
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