【convoy】H4 and B35AM options are updated

BIN: SST-20-W40H-A120-J4402Rev.01 J5-FB4-VH

I did the same with the same results. But there’s a difference between a cheap Ali lens and a Gaggione one.
One could ask Gaggione to provide cd/lm on this lens/LED combo. They once run a simulation for me, they would likely do the same to a prospect buyer.

The CLSNM1.TG may work very well with Led Lenser imitation type TIR optics.
They have a relatively large aspheric in the centre so it can focus the light into a narrow beam, unlike most other TIR optics.
You find these optics in cheap 3xAAA lights too, sometimes.
But maybe the diameter is too large for an S2+
But then again, i’ve seen smaller diameter versions too.

With typical 20mm TIR optics, the 5° ones often have no aspheric lens in the centre. They’re just flat in the centre.
Then they act like a normal reflector: beam from the cup and spill from the centre.

The new S2+ with the SST20 should be great, I'm going to recommend the shit out of this light on Polish EDC, Flashlight and urbex forums and fb groups, it's a really a nice addition to your assortment :THUMBS-UP: :BEER: .

To my guessing replacing the ugly yellowish XPL HI U6-4C 4200-4500K with the XPL-HI V2 5D which is slightly rosy and objectively produces nicer light would result in higher sale rates since people will recommend it merely because they'll like the tint of it. Now I often hear as argument against NW 4000K that it is ugly yellowish thus Olight is better.

The 3000K and 5000K XPL-HI tints you offer are under the BBL so why not the 4000K as well?

I'm still convinced the S2+ should come with the OP reflector by default since it's primarily a multifunction/edc light and not a pocket thrower.

+1 on the XPL-HI V2 5D. I think it's the best LED tint out there, period. Milky white in every area, from the hotpsot, corona, and spill. There's old XM-L2's in 5D1 or 5D2 Hank used to sell, a rare batch, but these XPL-HI's are very close if not better.

Next may be the Samsung 351D 4000K 90+CRI, but may depend on sourcing/batch, etc.

I cannot understand objections to these two LED's tint, but certainly what optics they are installed in is a factor.

Where can you buy them in small quantities (1 or 2 units)?

Probably because they’re hard to find/get a hold of. Everyone seems to be carrying the FB4 tint bin. The closest we’ve had to below BBL SST20 so far is the FA3 tint bin in Fireflies’ lights, but those still seem to average out to just above BBL. FB4 isn’t bad - could use a minus green filter but is by no means terrible without one.

Still, hopefully someone can secure FA1 or FA4 tint bin in the near future.

Dont’ know. But I doubt it’s worth it because unless you are a flashlight manufacturer that can design a host around it, I doubt you can make use of it.

I will actively look for these Bins

Simon, hope you did not order a large batch of the SST-20 FB4 tint bin. Once you get some Cree 5D tint emitters and compare it with the SST-20 FB4 tint bin, you will understand why the FB4 is not very good looking.

Until you shine on skin or wood etcetera…
That’s when CRI and R9 values come into play.

Dont worry ,friend,not everyone hates FB4,
and i will add FA1 or FA4 in my store ,i just supply one more choice for buyer

:+1:

Simon any chance you will consider making the pills out of copper instead of brass for better heat sinking and heat transfer?

I am worried that the copper surface is easily oxidized.

I see no problem with it, copper barely oxidizes at low temperatures. On the other hand, standard rosin flux comes in super handy to remove its oxidation while still hot when hot air soldering or reflowing, for example.

Cheers ^:)

Fri, 01/11/2019 - 08:34

Great to hear Simon, definitely interested in FA1 or FA4 when it becomes available.

I dunno what CRI the XPL HI 5D's are, but wow, the more I look at them and compare to other LED's if one LED to one LED lights or triple to triple, everything else is blahhh. I assume they are in the 70's for CRI - not sure if anyone tested them, but Richard at MtnE and Hank at IOS don't list the CRI for them. XPL-HI's still seem pricey though, where others now are like 1/2 the price.

Almost all the available Cree 5D tint are 70 CRI. I wish they had some 90 CRI version. The E21A 4000k and 219b 4000k 9080 looks similar to Cree 5D tint but with better color rendering and lower output. I suspect the SST20 FA1 tint bin will look about the same as Cree 5A or 5D tint.