NIGHTWATCH Avaritia NA40 SE: triple SST20 3000K, 4000K, 95cri, type-C rechargeable - $42.24 Code: NA40SE New photos in post #53

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NIGHTWATCH Avaritia NA40 SE: triple SST20 3000K, 4000K, 95cri, type-C rechargeable - $42.24 Code: NA40SE New photos in post #53

Promotion is Active now:

Code price: $42.24 — use code: NA40SE

Product link: Order here

or: https://www.nealsgadgets.com/collections/others/products/nightwatch-na40...

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Hi guys,

Following in the footsteps of its successful small thrower, the NIGHTWATCH Seeker NS22 , is another potential hit from the NIGHTWATCH brand:

This time it’s the (3 x SST20/40 95cri) _ Avaritia NA40 SE_ series.

Again, inexpensive, but a lot of light for our money!

Code price:_ $42.24_ — use code: NA40SE

Just post ‘interested, or I’m in’ here in this thread if you are.





3 x SST20 3000k, 95cri close-up shot to wall

Specification:
LED: triple SST40 6500K /SST20 3000K/SST20 4000K led (SST20 3kk and 4kk are 95cri)
Power Source: 1 × 26650 (not included)
Output: SST40 6000lm SST20 3000K 95CRI 2000lm SST20 4000K 95CRI 2000lm
dimension (lxd): 131mm x 41mm
charging : Rechargeable via usb-C charging port
modes: M-L-M-H-turbo

Package include:
1*NIGHTWATCH NA40SE flashlight
1*lens
2*o-rings
1*Type-C cable
1*lanyard

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1. Lux-Perpetua
2. Kit Latura
3. Rdubya18
4. BlueSwordM
5. G0OSE
6. lumiere
7. sandanbob
8. mattheww1950
9. qandeel
10. johnkey68
11. timbo114
12. Muto
13. Sidney Stratton (conditional)
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Welll.. nice stats but unknown Brand, and Price to high.. the grey/blue looks great.. Innocent

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Welll.. nice stats but unknown Brand, and Price to high.. the blue looks great.. Innocent

You just might find this insighful about the Nightwatch brand, please check these threads out:

The surprise hit NIGHTWATCH Seeker NS22:

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/64474

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/63780

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Thanks ya i allready checked it.. CoolThumbs Up

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IIRC, Nightwatch is a "brand" of Enogear which is a flashlight company of Jacky (the same Jacky who also owns FireFlies). My Nightwatch IRA (offered by Enogear and Kaidomain) is a fantastic light for a bargain price. I'm curious about the offer tatasal presents here. AFAIK, the NA40SE is being offered by Neal for quite some time already and I had the impression there was a coupon by Martin oder someone else to get it a bit cheaper. However, I could be wrong, though. It seems Neal has some new emitter options (SST-20).

I'm interested. Smile

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I’m in

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I’m in also . Just got an NS22 with the SST20. Think I’ll try the SST40 .

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Ah now I’m interested in the light now that it has high CRI options Smile

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I’m interested depending on price please.

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Interested

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Interested.

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Neal’s Gadgets was selling these a few months ago (so there are quite a few out there in the hands of BLF members), and I bought one. It pumps out a surprising amount of light for the size, and it is built like a tank. I think Neal’s price was about $1 higher.

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interested depending on the price.

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Net price after code: $ 42.24

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Interested depending on the price.

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I have the SST40 version already. I like this brand. Didnt realize it was from the Fireflies/Enogear Jack also.

Any idea what the tint and flux bin is?

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SKV89 wrote:
I have the SST40 version already. I like this brand. Didnt realize it was from the Fireflies/Enogear Jack also.

Any idea what the tint and flux bin is?

Perhaps someone here have an answer ?

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This is a good deal for this light. It's pretty high quality. Mine is running NarsilM now (of course) but I left the stock SST-40's in it. Actually the mod didn't boost up the output much - it does quite well stock for power. Here's why, dual FET's, 20 AWG wires, large bank of the good 7135's, etc.:

Easy access to the driver, USB charging is separate. It's a dream mod host:

Neal got into this light early on, and now I see for a very good reason. It's quality through-out - finish, threads, components. That bezel is SS with a nice matte finish or something.

 

Shame the company name/brand is not registered or something, so don't think BG can pick it up, but even at Neal's regular price at $48 it's a great deal. As much output as a Q8 (SST-40 though in very CW) in a much more pocket friendly size. As a host, I like it better than the C8F's, specially with the 26650 support.

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Really excited for this light after Tom’s post above. Going to be my first SST20 light and also first one with USB-C.

What’s the max battery length? Any chance that an unprotected 21700 would fit?

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I'm doubting it, but can't recall if I tried. I got many 26650 lights and tried 21700's in a bunch. For example I know 21700's fit ok in the Lumintop SD26, which is why my modded SD26 is my most common batt test host.

Sorry, but seem to be missing a lot of pics of the NA40, including all the mods, but here's what I got currently posted: photobucket-NightWatchNA40, hope the link works.

I got a bunch of the 3500K SST-20's coming in from Blue and would love to swap out the blue CW's in the NA40 with the 3500k's. I took stock light measurements but don't have the #'s with me right now. Amps will be dependent on the cell you use (full open FET based driver). Think I was testing with an LK 5000 or equivalent. There's really no reason to go to a 21700 in this light - tons of amps from an LK 5000 and better capacity than a high performance 21700 like the 30T or 40T. 

 

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I’m IN

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After Tom’s breakdown and recommendation I am in.
Thanks!

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If you guys are interested it in stock, I think the UI should be of interest, and unfortunately I can't help much with that, since mine is modded now. Maybe tatasal or someone that owns one can provide details? For me, I'm more into if/how easy it can be modded, overall quality of the host, etc., but it sure is a good find as a host and quality. I can't recall any negatives but the UI is more about personal prefs anyways.

I see there's not much posted - maybe youtube or FB has more - didn't check.

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I’m interested – pending info on UI…

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Tom E wrote:

This is a good deal for this light. It’s pretty high quality. Mine is running NarsilM now (of course) but I left the stock SST-40’s in it. Actually the mod didn’t boost up the output much – it does quite well stock for power. Here’s why, dual FET’s, 20 AWG wires, large bank of the good 7135’s, etc.:





Easy access to the driver, USB charging is separate. It’s a dream mod host:



Neal got into this light early on, and now I see for a very good reason. It’s quality through-out – finish, threads, components. That bezel is SS with a nice matte finish or something.


 


Shame the company name/brand is not registered or something, so don’t think BG can pick it up, but even at Neal’s regular price at $48 it’s a great deal. As much output as a Q8 (SST-40 though in very CW) in a much more pocket friendly size. As a host, I like it better than the C8F’s, specially with the 26650 support.

Thanks for the inputs Tom E, you are always a valuable resource.

I still don’t have mine yet.

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@tatasal, is there a way to get the price precisely down to 42,20$US?

I just hate non exact prices Smile

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@tatasal, is there a way to get the price precisely down to 42,20$US?

I just hate non exact prices Smile

It is the exact price when the code is used. (in fact, I already edited the word “estimated” in the price in this thread) I just tried the code and it went down to that price, however, the promotion is still not active at the moment but it will be anytime soon (as soon as the number of interests goes up some more).

I will post the code to use when the appropriate time comes, and perhaps it’s pretty soon.

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Wish I could have been more helpful though. This vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xISREg1YcRA, shows the UI as click ON, click thru modes, click&hold for OFF - pretty common sequence.

Think turbo is dbl click. So, turbo is the full dual FET's, while high appears to be the full 16x7135 bank of FET's. Stock on a LK fully charged I measured 13.2 amps w/clamp meter, and 5.45A on high (5.6A max on 16x7135's). Adding spring bypasses, gave it a bump, 14 to 15.5 amps.

 

With SST-40 CW's:

Stock: 4640 lms at start, 4280 at 30 secs, 36 kcd (thin magnet on batt+ end)

After spring bypasses, solder blob topped LK cell: 5240 lms @start, 4680 lms @30 secs, 40 kcd

After driver NarsilM mod, solder blob topped LK cell: 17.5A tail, 5720 lms at start, 4980 at 30 secs

 

Lots of pros for this light, but here's some concerns/cons:

  • tailcap is kind of strange with no spring -- see video linked above at about the 14:30 mark. Though the vid is in German, you can see what's goin on. 
  • no-spring tail means you may have to do some fiddling with magnets for typical flat top 26650's
  • side switch protrudes a little and is fairly stiff, least on mine

Why, why did they leave out a tail spring? Looks like there's machining to support it, but no slight impression that would hold one in place. Why would they sell a light like this? Dunno -- maybe we can beg/plead they fix this because of you are not a modder, I can see this being a major issue.

 

More pics:

Did I forget to mention I like hot peppers?

 

I did find some more pics not yet posted. Stripped the stock driver and used it as a contact board:

This Bob Smith 2 part epoxy has been working great, keeps the piggyback driver low:

My notes on the stock tests and spring bypasses (2 - on driver and on the USB-C charging board):

 

Notes on the mods:

Ordered from Neal, original box, lanyard, spare lens, and o-rings. Think there was no manual, not sure. The LK cell I used for testing:

 

After the mod:

 

This is the strange culprit. Usually they have a groove on the inside of that raised ring so a spring can snap in, but this doesn't have one. I'd almost say they simply left it out of my light but the German vid shows the same thing:

 

I'd really, really want to check sources to see if they addressed this. Again, not really a problem for me. There doesn't seem to be a downside w/magnets. I even used 3 of them and got even better amps/output -- check my notes. Not sure, but don't think I ever brought this up with Neal - I should have...

More pics in my NA40 album here: photobucket.com NightWatchNA40

 


 Edit:

Ohh- -- let's hope they fixed the tailcap already??

 Mine doesn't have the NA40SE labeling, so maybe it's a NA40 problem before the fixes? Here's some info on the SE upgrade: https://m4dm4x.com/nightwatch-avaritia-na40-se-updated-version/

Judging by the pics, mine is definitely a NA40, not the SE version, because mine has the gap at the bezel.

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Here’s the coupon to code to use for the $42.24 price:

COUPON CODE: NA40SE

Product link: Order here

or: https://www.nealsgadgets.com/collections/others/products/nightwatch-na40...

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Oh yes.

If the PL47 isn’t home when I come back, I may be tempted if 21700s fit.

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Tom E wrote:

Wish I could have been more helpful though. This vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xISREg1YcRA, shows the UI as click ON, click thru modes, click&hold for OFF – pretty common sequence.


Think turbo is dbl click. So, turbo is the full dual FET’s, while high appears to be the full 16×7135 bank of FET’s. Stock on a LK fully charged I measured 13.2 amps w/clamp meter, and 5.45A on high (5.6A max on 16×7135’s). Adding spring bypasses, gave it a bump, 14 to 15.5 amps.


 


With SST-40 CW’s:


Stock: 4640 lms at start, 4280 at 30 secs, 36 kcd (thin magnet on batt+ end)


After spring bypasses, solder blob topped LK cell: 5240 lms start, 4680 lms 30 secs, 40 kcd


After driver NarsilM mod, solder blob topped LK cell: 17.5A tail, 5720 lms at start, 4980 at 30 secs


 


Lots of pros for this light, but here’s some concerns/cons:



  • tailcap is kind of strange with no spring — see video linked above at about the 14:30 mark. Though the vid is in German, you can see what’s goin on. 

  • no-spring tail means you may have to do some fiddling with magnets for typical flat top 26650’s

  • side switch protrudes a little and is fairly stiff, least on mine


Why, why did they leave out a tail spring? Looks like there’s machining to support it, but no slight impression that would hold one in place. Why would they sell a light like this? Dunno — maybe we can beg/plead they fix this because of you are not a modder, I can see this being a major issue.


 


More pics:


Did I forget to mention I like hot peppers?



 


I did find some more pics not yet posted. Stripped the stock driver and used it as a contact board:




This Bob Smith 2 part epoxy has been working great, keeps the piggyback driver low:




My notes on the stock tests and spring bypasses (2 – on driver and on the USB-C charging board):




 


Notes on the mods:



Ordered from Neal, original box, lanyard, spare lens, and o-rings. Think there was no manual, not sure. The LK cell I used for testing:



 


After the mod:



 


This is the strange culprit. Usually they have a groove on the inside of that raised ring so a spring can snap in, but this doesn’t have one. I’d almost say they simply left it out of my light but the German vid shows the same thing:



 


I’d really, really want to check sources to see if they addressed this. Again, not really a problem for me. There doesn’t seem to be a downside w/magnets. I even used 3 of them and got even better amps/output — check my notes. Not sure, but don’t think I ever brought this up with Neal – I should have…


More pics in my NA40 album here: photobucket.com NightWatchNA40


 




 Edit:


Ohh- — let’s hope they fixed the tailcap already??


 Mine doesn’t have the NA40SE labeling, so maybe it’s a NA40 problem before the fixes? Here’s some info on the SE upgrade: https://m4dm4x.com/nightwatch-avaritia-na40-se-updated-version/


Judging by the pics, mine is definitely a NA40, not the SE version, because mine has the gap at the bezel.

Strange tail, but it looks like no spring intended there just ptess fit bottom of battery it sticks out
But why did you not simply piggyback just the Attiny MCU and replace the FETs with one Infineon, or not stripping the AMCs wiring to piggyback drivers MCU

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