FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

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There are some news in post #2 on mentioned the TLF order thread

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Toykeeper/BLF und Neal der Händler/Versender kümmern sich nun um dieses Projekt. Zurzeit wird mit Hochdruck am Manual bzw. an der Bedienungsanleitung gearbeitet. Der Schriftzug für der Lampe sieht ebenfalls gut aus. Es wird zwei LED Varianten geben. 1. Triple XP-L HI 3D (~5000K) Diese Version wird $ 36,- kosten. 2. Triple Samsung LH351D (~4000K) 90CRI Diese LED Variante wird $30,- kosten. Der Versand und die Bezahlung wird über den Shop von Neal abgewickelt und Garantiert nicht vor dem ‘Chinese New Year’ am 05.02.2019 starten.

- There is work on a logo
- ordering via Neal’s shop
- Hi $36
- Samsung $30
- ordering sometime after Chinese New Year

Crosspost with TK Smile

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Bob_McBob wrote:
I have an account at TLF and I also can’t view any of the FW3A threads anymore. What’s going on?

With Cawi and Fritz not responding, Bluzie seems to be handling things on TLF. Also helping with the manual, I think. If I understand correctly, production should happen soon. I’m not sure if it’ll be before or after CNY though.

Edit: After CNY, apparently. On a related note, it’s a little weird being the last person to hear about project news.

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Guaranteed not before CNY the german text reads.

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For those of us on the other side of the pond, CNY is February 5, 2019 i.e. 05.02.2019

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Good idea, teacher. I think I remember learning somewhere what happens when we assume.
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Did someone say something about a logo?

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For 30 dollars I’ll want one for sure! But were you able to send to Brazil?

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chadvone wrote:
Did someone say something about a logo?

I hope not.

At least, not on the light itself. It’s meant to be blank. No text, no logo, no flame icon in a triangle, no CE/RoHS markings, nothing.

That stuff can go on the box, in the manual, whatever… just not on the light itself.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
chadvone wrote:
Did someone say something about a logo?

I hope not.

At least, not on the light itself. It’s meant to be blank. No text, no logo, no flame icon in a triangle, no CE/RoHS markings, nothing.

That stuff can go on the box, in the manual, whatever… just not on the light itself.

+1 ! No marks on it please Flat Stare

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Add me to the list for one, please. Thanks!

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TK, I think you were asked to take glamour shots of the lights you have… outdoors, in hand, in use, the sort of thing OCD’s can drool over while waiting for their light. So, you gonna take your camera and a couple of lights out for a walk? Huh? Are ya? I think he said Pretty Please… Wink If he didn’t, I’ll say it for him… Pretty please with a big fat MT-G2 on top? Big Smile

Pwease?

Yeah yeah yeah, I’ve already seen pics of the light, I just wanna see how creative TK is with her camera. Big Smile

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In case that was the wrong color…

Edit: downsized the obnoxiously bright rose

Edit II: Will sheer volume of Bluebonnets help?

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Really nice rose pics, Dale.

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TY Frank, think it’ll work?

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ToyKeeper wrote:
chadvone wrote:
Did someone say something about a logo?

I hope not.

At least, not on the light itself. It’s meant to be blank. No text, no logo, no flame icon in a triangle, no CE/RoHS markings, nothing.

That stuff can go on the box, in the manual, whatever… just not on the light itself.

I assume it is for the manual, not slapped on the lamp

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I’ll give a 50 percent chance.;)

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joechina wrote:
ToyKeeper wrote:
chadvone wrote:
Did someone say something about a logo?

I hope not.

At least, not on the light itself. It’s meant to be blank. No text, no logo, no flame icon in a triangle, no CE/RoHS markings, nothing.

That stuff can go on the box, in the manual, whatever… just not on the light itself.

I assume it is for the manual, not slapped on the lamp

Now that we’re talking about it…other lights from Lumintop (Prince and Prince mini) have the brand logo on the tailcap metal button…
Still, I hope they don’t want to include that on the FW3A…

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I’ll give ya the moon TK, what’dya say?

Hold on, let me dim that for ya… Wink (it’s a ramp. :D)

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I think she’ll like that better.

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I shoulda took pics of that eclipse all the way through and back to normal but I was FREEZING! And that was the night I decided to turn my Meteor on in my jacket pocket to warm my hand… burned the lining in the pocket. lol

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That’s one way to stay warm.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
chadvone wrote:
Did someone say something about a logo?

I hope not.

At least, not on the light itself. It’s meant to be blank. No text, no logo, no flame icon in a triangle, no CE/RoHS markings, nothing.

That stuff can go on the box, in the manual, whatever… just not on the light itself.

Sorry that’s not an option. If it is to be sold in the EU, being an electronic device, and other such markets that also apply the same standards, it must at least carry a genuine CE mark somewhere. The rest of the junk, I agree. As well as the genuine and traceable paperwork and access to a technical data file to justify it, covering all aspects.

At least we haven’t had all that discussion about a logo, that seems to be an essential of BLF specials. So, no logo, no Lumintop bunny, no serial number ?

The CE mark has to be at least 5mm high. If that is not technically possible (I doubt it in this case), then there is an exemption to just do it on the paperwork.

Start here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ce-marking

There is no such thing as an RoHS logo, that’s just a made-up thing and not required. To be CE it also has to be RoHS, it is implicit. As for the “warning, may get hot” stuff, study ASTM C1055 and other such standards.

This is also part of CE product safety, and applying the warning may be required as a way around the general standards. Which I am sure this thing can easily violate.

And, as I have said on another thread, I see that some EU and other countries are taking a hard look at fraudulent paperwork, marking, design, even scanning for banned alloys at their borders. As well as questioning dubious customs declarations that under-state the actual price paid, to avoid legitimate import duties (or tariffs).

Actually, for battery powered torches, into the UK, duty should be paid at 5.7% on price+shipping+insurance, then there is 20% VAT due on top of that.

Once it’s in the UK it can be freely moved anywhere in the EU, Norway, Switzerland etc. Which is probably why Banggood have their “EU” warehouse in the UK, I guess we have the most favourable combination of overall costs. For the time being.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/classifying-electric-lamps

https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/trade-tariff/commodities/8513100...

“Import
The commodity code for importing is 8513100000.
Goods are subject to VAT standard rate.
Importing from outside the EU is subject to a third country duty of 5.70 % unless subject to other measures.
Import measures and restrictions for specific countries can be found under the import tab.”

AFAIK China is not on the list of countries who have negotiated a trade agreement for 0% import duty.

For a personal import, as long as the total cost is under £15, all this is waived. But seriously, how much of the stuff we buy does that really apply to? Certainly not this one.

https://andrewminalto.com/import-duty-vat-threshold/

Best that the distributor gets their ducks in a row before this is released. I gather that there have recently been a number of problems with Fireflies distribution, and there may be a common factor with this one.

The world has moved on quite a bit recently, and you can no longer expect to just churn out any-old stuff to consumers and ship it from far-far-away, under the radar, or with ludicrously understated value, nevermind “as a gift”.

It has to be basically correct, and documented, and go through recognised channels, whether it be a business or a personal import. Not meaning just in a jiffy-bag from state-subsidised China Post (with “free delivery” playing the international reciprocal postage system and state subsidy game, though that too will soon be ending also).

It is all being tightened up.

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DB Custom wrote:
Pwease?

Maybe after a proto4 arrives? (if one arrives)

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It better. I try not to be negative in these group buy threads, but it is ridiculous that you are not in the main loop, and among the first to know, about any and all developments. I know you don’t like it either, and I hope it changes immediately.

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MascaratumB wrote:
ToyKeeper wrote:
chadvone wrote:
Did someone say something about a logo?

I hope not.

At least, not on the light itself. It’s meant to be blank. No text, no logo, no flame icon in a triangle, no CE/RoHS markings, nothing.

That stuff can go on the box, in the manual, whatever… just not on the light itself.

+1 ! No marks on it please Flat Stare


Yes, please no logo. If one has to be on it then I think the tailcap is the best location.
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ToyKeeper wrote:
I recently found a way to eliminate a bunch of code, to make room for new things. I’m hoping to do some fancy stuff with aux LEDs in that space, but no hardware exists for it yet.

I’d love to be able to utilize them other than just as a locator when off. I’d love to be able to ramp the aux LED’s and use them with the blink modes. Maybe even some new ones. I think most of the UI is covered pretty well in terms of white light.
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Yes, please no logo. If one has to be on it then I think the tailcap is the best location.

Agree!

You are a flashaholic if you are forced to come out of the closet, to make room for more flashlights.

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Yes, please no logo’s. If it is sold from China you don’t neet the CE logo anyway.
It’s the responsibility of the European importer/distributer of the product, wich probably won’t be the way of selling. Don’t think this will end up in shops, just straight from China to the end user.

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Are you planning to start manufacturing? no logo is much more beautiful

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Geuzzz wrote:
Yes, please no logo’s. If it is sold from China you don’t neet the CE logo anyway. It’s the responsibility of the European importer/distributer of the product, wich probably won’t be the way of selling. Don’t think this will end up in shops, just straight from China to the end user.

yes i dont get it either, its not like this light is gonna be sold in retailer shops etc… most will buy from banggood or where they will be sold after group buy.. logo i dont really want at all on this light..

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