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Iā€™ve tried searching with no successā€¦.but I have a feeling this has been asked or discussed before. Can someone tell me what the comparison of beam,output etc between the XPL-HI version and the LHD version should be?

ORā€¦can you link me to where that info might be?

Iā€™m interested in oneā€¦maybe two lightsā€¦.but curious about this.

TIA!

Output:
The XP-L HI will have the highest output, but the LH351D 4000k 90CRI isnā€™t actually that far behind considering itā€™s a 90CRI emitter.

Beam:
The XP-L HI will be quite a bit throwier than the LH351D. The LH351D will be much floodier.

Tint:
Unless Lumintop/we find a golden way below BBL sample, the XP-L HI will have a better tint than the LH351D, especially if the XP-L HI comes in a 5D tint bin.
The LH351D is not bad, just not as good as the XP-L HI in terms of tint.

Color rendition:
The LH351D hands down. It crushes the XP-L HI if not counting for the tint, especially outdoors.

One LH351D 4000k 90CRI for me please

Iā€™m already down for one, XPL HI

Put me down for another one, the other LED

Memory?

I am already down for one. I think I would like to change that to 2 please. One of each emitter type. Thanks :smiley:

Iā€™m already down for 2 LH351D lights (didnā€™t see my name on the list though), but would like to bump that to 3 if possible.

Thank you!

As I said a couple days agoā€¦

Your initial request was Jan 9th, thatā€™s why you donā€™t see your name on the list yet.

5D is 4000K, correct? Weā€™re supposed to see the XP-L HI in 5000K, so maybe 3A (most common availability I see).

Whoops, I missed that. Thank you.

I thought it XPL HI 3D? Would be great but I am probably wrong.

Please increase my order from one light to two ā€” one of each emitter type.

Thanks to all the fine folks making this design happen ā€” greatly appreciate all of your hard work.

Please add me for one with LH351D

Many thanks to the people who spend their time so we can all get a nice torch !

The OP states XPL HI 3D, though I prefer the XPL HI 5D from IOS/MtnE - the best tint I've seen - milky white, consistent thru the hot spot, corona and flood. Been using the 5D's is a few mods and loving them -- just my opinion of course

Ah, and therein lies the rubā€¦ anyone answering tint questions answers in a subjective manner in relation to their own perception and perspective. Take Blue Swords answer above as an example, I totally disagree and would immediately pull any 4000K emitters I got in a light and do so every time. 5D is way too warm for me as well. 3D is as low as Iā€™d go, ever. So itā€™s completely in the eye of the beholder. The LH351D in W6 5000K is a nice white emitter, it doesnā€™t throw like the domeless HI but itā€™s hot spot is well defined and it doesnā€™t have the artifacts of a Cree emitter, HD or HI either one.

Yā€™all know I build a lot of lights. I get Cree emitters as needed and keep my fingers crossed. I order Samsung LH351Dā€™s by the 20ā€™s, 30ā€™s, even 50ā€™s. Just got 30 in a week or so ago. Thatā€™s my testament to the Samsung emittersā€¦ and of course just my opinion. :wink: The other glaring praise for the Samsungs for me is that I have them in my Titanium/Copper scratch made EDC Quad. The beam profile is a pleasure every time I use it, love em! As an 18500 sized quad, I donā€™t expect it to have a great amount of throw and thatā€™s not how itā€™s used. I would think the FW3A would fit in the same category, an EDC close range light that is used nearly daily for the every day little drops and losses, nuts and bolts, keys, pocket change, the normal little things that make it worth having a light on hand all the time. But again, thatā€™s my take and everyone elseā€™s may diverge quite broadlyā€¦.

We often use the terms loosely, but Iā€™d argue that ā€œtintā€ specifically refers to up/down movement away from the blackbody line. Pinkish and greenish are tints. Youā€™re talking about CCT, which doesnā€™t have such a handy one-word descriptor, but is largely left-right movement along the blackbody line. Technically both are subjective, but thereā€™s a lot more agreement about ideal tint than there is about ideal CCT. Indeed, 3D and 5D being both below the blackbody line, you seem to agree with Tom about tint.

I prefer an ā€œAā€ or ā€œDā€ as far as the black body Locus is concerned. Below or ideally, at, the line. But we seldom get our choice in these matters.

So I agree with Tom in the choice of a D, not in the choice of a 5. 2A or 3A would be my preference most of the time. I prefer white, no tint. No green or blue or purple or pink or orange or rose or brown, just white.

My Avatar is in color, by the way. 17 emitters, in moon mode. White. Or very close to it.

Perfection.

I am in complete agreement with DB Custom on this. I donā€™t think it could be said any clearer or more conciselyā€¦. so nothing else need be said, or ā€™attemptedā€™ to be said; by me.

DB Customā€™s Avatar.
ā€œ17 emitters, in moon mode. White. Or very close to it.ā€

True Neutral WhiteXĀ°-tm / White, no tint. No green or blue or purple or pink or orange or rose or brown, just WHITE... as much as possible.

Thanks for the input! Greatly appreciated.