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What happened to free shipping?

I can barely find few flashlights on Bang good and Gearbest that have free shipping,
is that something new ?

I also see they are slamming insurance on everything.

It says “free shipping on 49.99’ but at the end it still adds some shipping charges, I see they split the cart in different packages,

And Batteries have another shipping charge.

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Well, they seem to push us towards it. As well as insurance, they claim ;

All items being sold at Banggood are guaranteed to be delivered to buyers within 60 days for orders shipped to your country.

You could refer to this link:

https://www.banggood.com/What-are-the-Shipping-Methods-and-Delivery-Time...

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If you still don’t receive your parcel after our processing time has passed, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best regards,

Generally, its annoying because you see a cheap item, and with all those extra fees, its less interesting. but when shipping fails, its a p.i.t.a. and its a lot easier to get the items re-sent.

So, its just a gamble.

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It is new, even BG adds shipping now. Annoying, prices are not transparant anymore which makes me want to buy less.

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Now I understand

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S’cuse me.

Look at YOUR country’s/Local prices for the items you are buying.
IF they available.
Usually 300%ish more than China for same items.

Somebody has to pay freight. Plus in Aust here we also now. get slugged with 10% import tax. plus freight. plus cost of.
and still. Usually waaay cheaper than local prices.

Don’t knock your slightly higher costs. You’re still way ahead.

Just think to yourself. Could we even build the items we buying at the current quality they seem to achieve (10 yrs ago a bit different. 99% shit) I’ve got 2 × $3 to 400 Puma knives here. My Chinese folders and one fixed.ARE, as much as I can see/feel.
of equal build quality, basically.
This ENLAN Mo9 is as good as, to look at and feel.
with similar quality steel in blade. (440c) For $8.75AUD del.

Like Japanese and Korean cars. They ALL started at same place
Bottom of pile. Prices are only going to go UPwards.

Don’t knock it mate. Just buy and be thankful.
I’ve bought 9 knives in last 3 weeks. 4 in freight still.
To replace with full price named blades. Probably 6 times more.
440c. D2. and VG10 only.
VG10 laminate only, Kitchen. they chip if wrongly heat treated.

Hmm. This a little longer than intended.

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It amazes me how we can get really cool items from China and Hong Kong, the equivalent flashlight is not even remotely available in the box stores, and you pay zero tax and zero shipping.
I’ve spent more on cookies for a school fundraiser than I have on some of these flashlights, and I didn’t even care for the cookies.

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Macka17 wrote:
S’cuse me.

Yo Mate, LOL, you rock Beer

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See, on some large low priced items, you can’t get free shipping.

Seems perfectly logical, especially if the shipping included is tracked.

Shipping costs money.

Even if you are a company with hundreds of thousands of shipments per month, it can cost quite a bit.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547

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I do not understand the arguments above.

This new development is not about free shipping or not about shipping at all, shipping is not free of course if it says free shipping, it is all paid for in the item prices. And I prefer it that way because it makes perfectly clear what you are going to pay.

Now what happens is that after you have spend your effort and time on ordering an item that you think is a good deal, at the end of the process a quite random amount is added that they call shipping fees.

So the process got fuzzier and you spend more time on orders that will be cancelled if the shipping fee lottery is not in your favor.

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djozz wrote:
It is new, even BG adds shipping now. Annoying, prices are not transparant anymore which makes me want to buy less.

Already did that for a while in general. Flash deals, etc., have been lacking, shipping prices have been going up, things just aren’t as attractive as they’ve been back a ways.

Had plenty of things all lined up to go… saw the shipping cost… nope, delete.

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djozz wrote:
So the process got fuzzier and you spend more time on orders that will be cancelled if the shipping fee lottery is not in your favor.

My last 3 orders got canceled by BG. They were single items that with a coupon code were real cheap. I assume that those prices were only going to be honored if I had added more items to make it a larger order. They were surely not going to make much money on that one single item shipped at the price I ordered it at.

I got the, what seems normal now, email that stated the item was back ordered and it only gave me 24 hours to request a refund. Glad I was paying attention to my email on a regular basis. I honestly don’t think they ever planned to sell a single one of that item at the coupon price.

Since I have a nice selection of lights now. I really don’t NEED any others. So I have become quite patient. I usually end up finding them on Ebay or elsewhere for just a few dollars more and get it shipped from the US. I have even managed to stay off Amazon as well. Different story all together with those idiots.

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I got a code for a couple things and then the shipping was tacked on.
I used “Make an Offer” with Andrew & Amanda and they matched the shipping added price and it came in days rather than weeks.

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toddcshoe wrote:
I got the, what seems normal now, email that stated the item was back ordered and it only gave me 24 hours to request a refund. Glad I was paying attention to my email on a regular basis.

What’d happen if you missed that 24hr window?

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I got the, what seems normal now, email that stated the item was back ordered and it only gave me 24 hours to request a refund. Glad I was paying attention to my email on a regular basis.
What’d happen if you missed that 24hr window?

I dunno, I just happened to be on the internet box when it showed up in my email.

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While I am also disappointed free shipping has disappeared on many items, there are also a few positive aspects:
- all Gearbest packages I received with the cheapest shipping option were with tracking – even though it said “no tracking”. This tracking had fairly good details and identified various airports, warehouses and steps in between and also customs clearing processes
- pretty much all ebay auctions from Asia have some form of tracking, I guess this is how the sellers are trying to protect themselves from false PP claims
- the new AliExpress app randomly adds shipping fees while it appears free on the AE website; I found out about this when I accidentally ordered the same item from my phone and the web. But, the tracking feature on the AE app is now vastly better.

Overall, shipping from Asia has improved for me despite the fees and shipping time seems much quicker than before.

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OKCOREY wrote:
It amazes me how we can get really cool items from China and Hong Kong, the equivalent flashlight is not even remotely available in the box stores, and you pay zero tax and zero shipping. I’ve spent more on cookies for a school fundraiser than I have on some of these flashlights, and I didn’t even care for the cookies.

The reason you get free shipping to the US is because the US Postal service (ie, US taxpayers) pick up the tab. I had wondered why the Chinese didn’t seem to give a crap about consolidating shipments to save money, and I had assumed that the Chinese Government picked up the tab so that they could boost exports.

I researched it, it’s the United States Government that picks up the tab. Shocking but true and who else would be so dumb to pay $150 in airfare for a $1.00 item? Don’t expect this unfairness to continue. Until then, let the amazement continue:-)

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Couchmaster wrote:
The reason you get free shipping to the US is because the US Postal service (ie, US taxpayers) pick up the tab.
That already changed, as I indicated earlier:
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1465919#comment-1465919
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Hmmm…. works for me. Nothing in life is ever “free” anyway…. somebody or some thing has to pay. Wink . That….. is just a simple fact. Smile

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i thought the ‘‘post office subsidizes chinese shipping’‘ thing was going to expire or be terminated this year
i have not really seen evidence though
all i know is, aliexpress still has lots of cheap stuff still with free shipping from china

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That american thing with China should not affect the rest of the world and still the ‘free’ shipping stops for all of us. I doubt that it has much to do with it.

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I think these Asian platforms have created new pricing algorithms. They have capable, educated staff who calculate what they can get away with.
If we take Gearbest as an example (not blaming them, just an example):
- you can no longer use points, coupons or discounts with flash sales, clearance or discounted items (and there are suddenly a lot of flash sales. Even a price reduction of 1% can be a flash sale)
- free shipping is gone, but the cheapest shipping option is probably low enough to still make the purchase (if shipping is under a dollar most people would still consider buying the product)
- the 0.10 $ flash sales or similar are gone?
- the identical item can be sourced/bought from different merchants that have “stores” on the GB platform. I am assuming they list, sell, fulfill/ship and get rated. GB handles payments acceptance and fund repatriation to Asia, minus their cut. They are a large dropshipper now and I am not sure which/how many items are actually in their own warehouses.

All of this happened over the last 2 years and all the changes came slowly.

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Just tested items in my basket on BG and all are with free shipping.  Maybe Canada is still ok for free shipping from BG.

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EVERY order I get from Liionwholsale there is FREE shipping. Does NOT matter if I buy One battery/charger or Twelve.

There is a catch! Big Smile I live 0.9miles away and go pick up my items! Thumbs Up

There is a 0.06% TAX because I live in Pennsylvania,,,,,,,,I believe that is a law throughout the USA,,,,,,Buy something online[or walk in like me] in your State and you have to pay the sales tax. PA sales is 6%,,much cheaper than shipping costs!

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klrman wrote:

Just tested items in my basket on BG and all are with free shipping.  Maybe Canada is still ok for free shipping from BG.

I’m finding that at BG & GB sometimes Free Shipping is offered & sometimes not. Many times when it is not offered I can close the page & do it again and Free Shipping is offered??
I can make no rhyme or reason to it…… Facepalm . Big Smile .. Big Smile

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teacher wrote:
klrman wrote:

Just tested items in my basket on BG and all are with free shipping.  Maybe Canada is still ok for free shipping from BG.

I’m finding that at BG & GB sometimes Free Shipping is offered & sometimes not. Many times when it is not offered I can close the page & do it again and Free Shipping is offered?? I can make no rhyme or reason to it…… Facepalm . Big Smile .. Big Smile

Maybe I will try that trick next time.

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/\ It’s random caramba, sometime it works.. sometimes it doesn’t. I discovered it by accident & have no explanation. Smile

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They might be tracking the fact that you opened the screen on the item and then went away. Perhaps impulse buyers get hooked for shipping but someone who seems to be on the fence about purchasing something does not.

I used to buy a lot of stuff from Banggood when I was converting my home to all LED but part way through the process realized that the very same item is often available from Chinese vendors on eBay at a lower cost and always with free shipping. What really surprises me is that more than half of what I buy on eBay now ships from somewhere else other than China. I’ve gotten packages from Vietnam, Cambodia, and the Philippines even though it said China for the seller’s location. Sometimes the carrier pigeons they use are pretty slow.

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/\… Hmmmm, best explanation I’ve heard so far. Thumbs Up

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Vegas LED Fan wrote:
I’ve gotten packages from Vietnam, Cambodia, and the Philippines even though it said China for the seller’s location. Sometimes the carrier pigeons they use are pretty slow.

One of my packages came from Solomon Islands. Of course I had to look up that place.

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