I must say i am bit dissapointed in hearing this, considering how long this light is in making, emitters should be the last problem really i just dont understand the thing with forget to order them or something… so for now it will take a while until that light with either that emitter or if it will change to sst20 will come out 
Lumintop knows long ago how many have shown interest so far must be many that want the samsung emitters.
There is no way you can fathom the ways of chinese flashlight manufacturers. But you can talk about it for sure…
Personally I like the SST-20 in a Carclo optic, gives a nicer beam than the huge spot of the LH351D in my opinion. The only drawback for me is that in a low resitance direct drive flashlight that the FW3A is, at turbo they are driven too hard (same as the SST-20 and 219C in the D4). It helps that the FW3A has the extra bank of 7135’s that the D4 does not have so you are good up to the most useful middle modes.
It may not necessarily be an issue of forgetfulness. Sometimes you have a situation where the financial department will tell you to not order things too early either because they don’t have the funds or they’re not 100% sure it’s the right product and instead to wait a little later to make the order. Of course by then there could be a situation where your particular emitter tint is not available.
It could also be due to a miscommunication or even a mistake in inventory.
There’s a lot of possible explanations and we really don’t know what the situation was.
All we know right now is that an emitter needs to be ordered.
but how will it decide, will they switch to sst20 for those that want and make the other emitter later for those that want the samsung, or will it only be 2 emitters produced ? seems a bit confusing right now hopefully someone can clear things up. If the wait is gonna be long then i can go for the sst20.
Only 2 led options, the xpl-hi and something else.
okok, so what should happen now, maybe make a poll keep the samsung or switch to the sst20 ?
That would be more noise in this already confuse process.
I guess it should be better to wait for LT decision on this!
Making new polls with dozens or hundreds of opinions that may end up in nothing if LT decides to go other way, would be very exhausting.
TK, tatasal and Neal seem to be in contact more or less. Maybe it is better to let them bring us the news and say what will be needed or not about this process!
okok u are right, makes sense.
Hi, just found about this light after a seeing a few mentions on r/flashlight - very interested and would like to order two.
For comparison:
Firelight2 played around with SST20 4000K 95 CRI and compared it to XPL HI D4. Both are Emisar D4 lights.
Thanks for that link, I hadn’t seen that post before.
Secondly, I’d like to invite all those who continue to ‘muddy the waters’ with requests to make changes to read the first page of this thread. It is what it is; you’ve paid no money and have nothing to complain about.
People other than yourself are offering voluntary time and services in an interesting creative endeavour. If you’re not satisfied, design and create something superior yourself. Maybe the rest of us will buy it and maybe not…but for this one it is what it is and all this criticism and back seat driving is getting on my nerves. Imagine how it feels for those actually putting in the effort.
I’m most excited for XPL HI.
If I get a second one, I’d like it to be quite different from the HI version. I understand that with the triple optic they will be in the same ballpark, but I’d like them to be at opposite ends of the spectrum, if that makes sense.
Not sure where u are going with this, what requests nobody is requesting anything? i think everyone that are on the list are excited to see the end of tunnel hopefully not too long from now, but this thing with the samsung emitters is ofc not much to do atm.
The whole idea with the samsung emitter was the reason i jumped in here and i read almost daily to see if any news etc pop up, progress on prototypes feedback etc all that… i want buy this light once its ready. Ive had this joy that im gonna have a first light with tripple frost lens with the samsung emitters and now it seems maybe that wont happen, wouldnt u be a bit dissapointd if u counted on it ?
Wow, thanks for the link joechina; I had not seen that post by Firelight2 comparing the two emitters.
It tells me all ’I’ need to know about the SST20 4000K 95 CRI. :cry:
It makes me very sorry I ordered a Convoy S2+ with the emitter just to see what all the hype I had been reading was about. :person_facepalming:
Oh well, it was on sale for cheap…. if it turns out to be as I suspect after reading Firelight2’s report; I’ll just swap the emitter or give the light away. 
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Well said Tumbleweed48…
Or you can put some diffuser sheet above the lens to avoid the greenish That’s what I do with a - for me - good emitter, XML2 T6-4C in a Convoy S2 and it works
Maybe it’s an idea to wait for the LH351D, but also give the option to order the light without emitters.
That way LT doesn’t have to source new emitters and everyone is happy.
True, but after reading that report; ’there was much more that ’I personally’ was less than impressed with’ than the “greenish” color.
Oh, sorry, I thought you were focusing on the tint :person_facepalming: 
I guess it will be a very specific LED, better for some type of use than other!
Anyway, I’m planning to grab one of each LEDs that will be sold, so waiting more or not, I’ll…wait
I’ll defer my preferences on emitters to those who don’t expect to mod their lights.
Whichever high CRI emitter the FW3A comes with, I will probably also buy a triple of the other to swap and compare and decide which I like best.
With regards to the LH351D being floody, it seems worth mentioning that Djozz tested dome slicing of the LH351D, and reported good results. 15-20% light loss, but increased throw, and also, rosier, warmer tint.
A Q6-binned Samsung would be equivalent to D240 in Nichia terms (240 lumens minimum at 700mA and 85 deg C). Based on DJozz’s sliced emitter measurement, that suggests a D190 output after dedoming.
A J4-binned SST-20 would also be equivalent to D190, so this creates a couple similar options for those interested in modding.
No problem my friend. :+1: . . Tint was indeed just one factor.
The XP-L HI has always been my first choice anyway. I will probably get one (1) of the second choice emitters too, whatever it ends up being; if first reports are favorable in the ‘tint department’.