Or you can put some diffuser sheet above the lens to avoid the greenish Thatās what I do with a - for me - good emitter, XML2 T6-4C in a Convoy S2 and it works
Oh, sorry, I thought you were focusing on the tint :person_facepalming:
I guess it will be a very specific LED, better for some type of use than other!
Anyway, Iām planning to grab one of each LEDs that will be sold, so waiting more or not, Iāllā¦wait
Iāll defer my preferences on emitters to those who donāt expect to mod their lights.
Whichever high CRI emitter the FW3A comes with, I will probably also buy a triple of the other to swap and compare and decide which I like best.
With regards to the LH351D being floody, it seems worth mentioning that Djozz tested dome slicing of the LH351D, and reported good results. 15-20% light loss, but increased throw, and also, rosier, warmer tint.
A Q6-binned Samsung would be equivalent to D240 in Nichia terms (240 lumens minimum at 700mA and 85 deg C). Based on DJozzās sliced emitter measurement, that suggests a D190 output after dedoming.
A J4-binned SST-20 would also be equivalent to D190, so this creates a couple similar options for those interested in modding.
No problem my friend. :+1: . . Tint was indeed just one factor.
The XP-L HI has always been my first choice anyway. I will probably get one (1) of the second choice emitters too, whatever it ends up being; if first reports are favorable in the ātint departmentā.
I almost knew this was comingā¦.getting a Chinese company to use South Korean suppliers (ie. Samsung) is like finding a unicorn, few and far betweenā¦.personally not interested in the SST-20 in the slightest.
Based on the link to Firelight2ās comparison above, it sounds like SST-20ās may not be such a good idea after all. Maybe we should wait for the Samsungs.
My vote is wait for the Samsungās. Iām down for two atm, one XPL-HI and one LH351D. Iāve been underwhelmed with my experience of the SST-20s and am not interested in any more until the tints are definitely below BBL without any green or yellow tint.
Yes, there are 12 individual marks, arranged like the hours on a clock. And with one emitter different, itāll look even more like a clock, because the marks at 3, 6, 9, and 12 oāclock will be a different color. In addition to those, I find XP-L HI in 10507 also produces three large corona āpetalsā which surround the hotspot like a big triangle. One of these three would also be a different color. Maybe itās not so noticeable with 4000K and 5000K though, since theyāre both pretty neutral.
With 10511 the big triangle is gone and the clock hour marks are much less noticeable.
I only quoted this one key wordā¦ because āshouldā really doesnāt apply to any part of this process. And for life in general, I find that āshouldā is usually just a path to disappointment.
Exactly. I donāt know either. Neal doesnāt really tell me much detail about anything. However, I can confirm itās not just the FW3A. The BLF Lantern seems to be having some difficulty sourcing LH351D emitters too.
There are no concrete answers yet. However, there is a high probabilty of more than two, in the futureā¦ because I think this light will probably be very popular if it is made well with no major flaws. Like, if the driver fit and reliability issue is fixed, it will probably sell very well.
The BLF A6 was very popular, and is still being produced and sold years later. Itās a practical general-purpose EDC light, and I think it has now sold more units than every other BLF project. It still gets recommended on forums because no one has yet made a better budget light to replace it. But I think the FW3A could finally replace the BLF A6.
If my guess is right, and if things go well, it may become a best-seller. So Iām guessing Lumintop will want to produce more versions of it in the future.
This is true. However, I did ask for feedback about the emitter type. I want to know if people are okay with using SST-20, which is easier to get, or if theyād rather wait for LH351D even though it could take quite a while.
Itās not a quantitative poll though. Even if people voted 100% one way or the other, I canāt guarantee what will actually happen. Itās more to just get a general qualitative feel of what people prefer, so we can give a suggestion to the manufacturer.
My favorite by far is XP-L HI. I think Iāve been fairly clear about that, but just in caseā¦ itās the one I consider the best for this light. I would ideally only make the light with XP-L HI emitters, and offer it in 7D, 5D, 4D, 3D, and 1D tints. Or maybe 6D, 5A, 3D, 2A. Perhaps 7A, 5D, 4A, 2D. Something like that.
Iāve tried both LH351D and SST-20, but my experience with both so far has been āicky green tintā, even at high CRI. But maybe that would be better with the correct tint bin.
However, this project isnāt just for me. Or just for Fritz. We already have one. This project is for the people. And a lot of people really like LH351D or SST-20. So weāll use thoseā¦ or at least one of the two. If either one can be obtained in a rosy tint bin, I think it would turn out well.
My favorite, and many otherās as well, is also XPL-HI. I think some people want to just try another emitter, or keep the cost slightly lower. Iām sure Iād be very happy with just two XPL versions.
3D and 5D XPL HI are great options. Hank's been selling the 5D's for quite a while now, but who knows if they are still available in the supply chain.
The LH351D's are exciting for being high CRI and good lumens, while the SST-20's are exciting for super high CRI, decent lumens and better throw. The benefits though aren't overwhelming, but they also come with cons. So far I'm lik'n the 3500K SST-20's from Blue, but my prefs are on the warmer side of neutral anyway, and not sure if I'm susceptible to noticing the greens as much.
Not exactly new news but the LH351D 4000Ks is currently out-of-stock from their usual China suppliers and with no definitely timetable for availability,
the SST20 4000k is being considered.
In the meantime, guys letās enjoy our OTHER lights.