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Simon said earlier he want to get rid of knurling on S2+ because it is the reason for a lot of scrapped host. So this will be the new design instead of old knurling.

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Whatever that is  I would say it would look good with some hex nut like shape on the bottom part of the business end and the tail cap, either cut into, or even better, protruding from the base material, as anti roll design, something like what Nitecore for ex. on the EC11, MT20C, etc.

 

And about the C8+ 21700,since it came to it lately, I'd like to see an XHP35 HI/HD versions with a boost driver if possible. Also, if it's not really out of the ballpark and still possible, maybe with a side e-switch and the same ramping UI like the Sofirn C8F.

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Ryzbor wrote:
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p=.

My opinion: I hoped for a bit more grooves/rings, or it to be slightly narrower at the battery tube, it is very straight/boring as it is now.

But I’m sure there are people who like this plain look.

total 6 grooves ,more like convoy X3

Is this also the new S2+ and S2+ 21700 design Simon?

sorry this one is copper S2+

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Lux-Perpetua wrote:

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[…] the color of 21700 C8+ is black ,and it needs 20mm driver

That’s great news Simon! Smile Will there be different versions of the C8+ 21700, e.g. tailclicky only, tailclicky + e-side-switch, e-side-switch only? Do you plan to offer both host version and full flashlight?

sounds like Convoy L4,
it’s better to make a new model
tactical button (Flashlight can not stand upside down ), side switch, micro-usb or type-c charging port.

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Simon Mao wrote:

Hello Simon.
I would like to add my wishes on new models of Convoy:
1. A new emitter XHP50 3 volts has appeared. And I think this is a great opportunity to update old models with an XML2 emitter. Most likely you will not need to make any changes to the old models except for changing the emitter to the XHP50 3 volts, since the xm-l has the same footprint, as the xhp50. And most XM-L optics will work with XHP50 3 volts.
Please consider this opportunity. I would really like to see Convoy S3 and Convoy M1 with emitters XHP50 3 volts.
2. Produce frosted glass for existing models of flashlight.

I wish you success!

Sorry for my poor english.

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Di_Joker wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:

Hello Simon.
I would like to add my wishes on new models of Convoy:
1. A new emitter XHP50 3 volts has appeared. And I think this is a great opportunity to update old models with an XML2 emitter. Most likely you will not need to make any changes to the old models except for changing the emitter to the XHP50 3 volts, since the xm-l has the same footprint, as the xhp50. And most XM-L optics will work with XHP50 3 volts.
Please consider this opportunity. I would really like to see Convoy S3 and Convoy M1 with emitters XHP50 3 volts.
2. Produce frosted glass for existing models of flashlight.

I wish you success!

17mm and 22mm driver for SST40 will be available soon ,it’s suitable for XHP50 3V,too
frosted glass lens is interesting ,i think i can let the manufacturer to produce some

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Simon,

I ordered a grey S2+ with a 4000K Ra95 SST20 and 4×7135 driver from Banggood and have received an e-mail from them stating:
“We’re sorry to inform you that the preorder for item ID:1420655 [Gray Convoy S2+ SST20 7135*8 7135*6 18650…] was delayed due to the manufacturing process.”

This is the S2+ i ordered.

This is the same product on your website.

Is there a manufacturing issue? I’m asking so i can decide whether to wait or cancel the order and order directly from your site instead.

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seems banggood is having big issues with stock or whatever is the problem, my advice is buy from simon on aliexpress instead…

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Agreed, should have bought my Nichia UV directly from Simon Sad stuck in BG purgatory now. Oh well. If it gets delayed again I’ll cancel and go direct.

But I can’t wait to see the S11 w XHP50.2 completed! Hopefully 80CRI 5000K J2 bin Wink or I’ll swap it myself, if need be.

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Simon Mao wrote:
only clear 18650 C8+ in stock currently ,sorry

the color of 21700 C8+ is black ,and it needs 20mm driver

Can you give me link for the Clear anodized 18650 C8+ ?

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adam7027 wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:
only clear 18650 C8+ in stock currently ,sorry

the color of 21700 C8+ is black ,and it needs 20mm driver

Can you give me link for the Clear anodized 18650 C8+ ?


Could it be this?…
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Clear-Convoy-C8-with-XPL-HI-LED-copper-DTP-board-and-ar-coated-inside-new-firmware/330416_32732511943.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.19.3da16d6cyowUbb

[REVIEWS] AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 /// BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// XTAR: PB2 Charger /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 /// KLARUS: XT1C /// LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 /// LIVARNOLUX: 314791 /// SKILHUNT: M150

Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 /// TIR Lenses: 1 / 2 /// Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 ///// My Collection ///// My Review's Blog (PT)

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I don't think there is a C8+ clear version, but maybe I just haven't seen one so far..

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MascaratumB wrote:
adam7027 wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:
only clear 18650 C8+ in stock currently ,sorry

the color of 21700 C8+ is black ,and it needs 20mm driver

Can you give me link for the Clear anodized 18650 C8+ ?


Could it be this?…
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Clear-Convoy-C8-with-XPL-HI-LED-copper-DTP-board-and-ar-coated-inside-new-firmware/330416_32732511943.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.19.3da16d6cyowUbb

MascaratumB, almost.

This is a clear C8, not a C8+. But if no clear C8+ available as host, I would take a few clear C8 hosts as well – just I think, a C8+ as host like these, but with clear anodization + translucent tailcap could be awesome good Party

(And I have a few LED stars and drivers piled up, so I would definitely need hosts.)

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sounds like Convoy L4, it’s better to make a new model tactical button (Flashlight can not stand upside down ), side switch, micro-usb or type-c charging port.

L4 is good but I like the idea of a C8+ type-C charge with tail standing. I like the C8 form factor because there are so many mods and parts made for that light. For instance, I want to be able to use L4P’s 6 emitter mcpcb

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Satan@103TFS wrote:
Simon could you include 22 to 17 mm. driver adapter in the package?
Currently no adapter,sorry
I was wondering the same thing. A 17mm Led4power driver + Luxeon Mz might be good match for this host. Give me a chance to use the MosDTP 4040 board (copper not aluminum)

Looking at the Ali Express pill picture of the S11, maybe the driver retaining ring could be flipped around. And it would create a smaller shelf you could solder the driver to. You would need to carefully cut slots on the inner diameter of the ring so you could tighten it down. What are the dimensions of the retaining ring? Looks larger than a 17mm opening but there are a few 17mm To 20mm Brass Adapter Rings on Ebay.
Thanks for any help.

i will consider to produce some adapters if many guys need it

I would buy (10) 22mm to 17mm adapters. I understand you may need many more than that to justify the cost of making the adapters. I have many used 26650 cells that I would like to sell on with an inexpensive host. The newer 21700 cells seem to outperform the 26650 in every way that I can see and are manufactured by the major players.

My morning routine on my pc consist of checking my emails and then looking to see if any Convoy 21700 flashlights are available.

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adam7027 wrote:
MascaratumB wrote:
adam7027 wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:
only clear 18650 C8+ in stock currently ,sorry

the color of 21700 C8+ is black ,and it needs 20mm driver

Can you give me link for the Clear anodized 18650 C8+ ?


Could it be this?…
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Clear-Convoy-C8-with-XPL-HI-LED-copper-DTP-board-and-ar-coated-inside-new-firmware/330416_32732511943.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.19.3da16d6cyowUbb

MascaratumB, almost.

This is a clear C8, not a C8+. But if no clear C8+ available as host, I would take a few clear C8 hosts as well – just I think, a C8+ as host like these, but with clear anodization + translucent tailcap could be awesome good Party

(And I have a few LED stars and drivers piled up, so I would definitely need hosts.)

Sorry! I indicated those as the silver/clear C8+ are not available at Convoy Store! They are different but the C8+ is not listed (currently)!
Maybe Simon can say something like that !

[REVIEWS] AMUTORCH: S3 / S3 vs 219c / AM30 / AX1 / VG10 /// SOFIRN: SF14 + SP10A / SP32A / SP10B /// NITEFOX: UT20 / ES10K / K3 /// ODEPRO: KL52 / B108 /// ACEBEAM: H20 / TK16 /// BLITZWOLF: BW-ET1 /// DQG: AA Slim Ti /// HC-LIGHTS: SS AAA /// XTAR: PB2 Charger /// OLIGHT: M2R Warrior /// WUBEN: TO10R / E05 / T70 / E10 /// ON THE ROAD: M1 / i3 / M3 Pro /// ROVYVON: A2 + A5R / E300S / A8 /// KLARUS: XT1C /// LUMINTOP: Tool AA V2.0 + Tool 25 /// LIVARNOLUX: 314791 /// SKILHUNT: M150

Tricks: 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 /// TIR Lenses: 1 / 2 /// Others: Biscotti 3 + 1*7135 / Triple TIR w/ XP-G2 ///// My Collection ///// My Review's Blog (PT)

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Inkidu wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:
Inkidu wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:
Satan@103TFS wrote:
Simon could you include 22 to 17 mm. driver adapter in the package?
Currently no adapter,sorry
I was wondering the same thing. A 17mm Led4power driver + Luxeon Mz might be good match for this host. Give me a chance to use the MosDTP 4040 board (copper not aluminum)

i will consider to produce some adapters if many guys need it

I would buy (10) 22mm to 17mm adapters. I understand you may need many more than that to justify the cost of making the adapters. I have many used 26650 cells that I would like to sell on with an inexpensive host. The newer 21700 cells seem to outperform the 26650 in every way that I can see and are manufactured by the major players.
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I would also like to buy some of those 22 to 17 mm adjustment rings, because I like the plain 1 mode 3×7135 driver. A 22 mm board with room to solder a number of 7135 would be a nice alternative as well, so to put on 3, 4, 5..8 of the 7135 on it. My main use of most of the S2+ I have is to lighten my interior on specific spots, and I always use the same settings for that, so little need for many modes in that user scenario.

Unless…. the ramping driver has a higher efficiency than 7135 when using a single battery like in the S11. In that case I’ll go for your new ramping driver Smile

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Being able to tailstand fairly well is one plus of the 26650 format. Also, has good capacity. Add a plain, robust, inexpensive amc7135 17mm driver and a diffuser and you could have a lantern in the tint of your choice.

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SKV89 wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:
sounds like Convoy L4, it’s better to make a new model tactical button (Flashlight can not stand upside down ), side switch, micro-usb or type-c charging port.

L4 is good but I like the idea of a C8+ type-C charge with tail standing. I like the C8 form factor because there are so many mods and parts made for that light. For instance, I want to be able to use L4P’s 6 emitter mcpcb

The problem with e-switches on this size of light and usb charging in general is that they are normally built onto the driver board and make driver swaps difficult.

One of the best things about Convoy’s is ease of modding, why take that away?

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WTF wrote:
SKV89 wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:
sounds like Convoy L4, it’s better to make a new model tactical button (Flashlight can not stand upside down ), side switch, micro-usb or type-c charging port.

L4 is good but I like the idea of a C8+ type-C charge with tail standing. I like the C8 form factor because there are so many mods and parts made for that light. For instance, I want to be able to use L4P’s 6 emitter mcpcb

The problem with e-switches on this size of light and usb charging in general is that they are normally built onto the driver board and make driver swaps difficult.

One of the best things about Convoy’s is ease of modding, why take that away?

Totally agree. Keep it straightforward moddable!

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Di_Joker wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:

Hello Simon.
I would like to add my wishes on new models of Convoy:
1. A new emitter XHP50 3 volts has appeared. And I think this is a great opportunity to update old models with an XML2 emitter. Most likely you will not need to make any changes to the old models except for changing the emitter to the XHP50 3 volts, since the xm-l has the same footprint, as the xhp50. And most XM-L optics will work with XHP50 3 volts.
Please consider this opportunity. I would really like to see Convoy S3 and Convoy M1 with emitters XHP50 3 volts.
2. Produce frosted glass for existing models of flashlight.

I wish you success!

Which flashlight is that?

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polarweis wrote:
Which flashlight is that?

Zebralight SC52F.

Sorry for my poor english.

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Marc E wrote:
Simon,

I ordered a grey S2+ with a 4000K Ra95 SST20 and 4×7135 driver from Banggood and have received an e-mail from them stating:
“We’re sorry to inform you that the preorder for item ID:1420655 [Gray Convoy S2+ SST20 7135*8 7135*6 18650…] was delayed due to the manufacturing process.”

This is the S2+ i ordered.

This is the same product on your website.

Is there a manufacturing issue? I’m asking so i can decide whether to wait or cancel the order and order directly from your site instead.

No any issue with manufacturing,
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Simon said earlier he want to get rid of knurling on S2+ because it is the reason for a lot of scrapped host. So this will be the new design instead of old knurling.

Hmm, wonder about “pineapple” knurling like on the TK05.

Fewer, wider cuts, probably less scrap.

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Hmm, wonder about “pineapple” knurling like on the TK05.

Fewer, wider cuts, probably less scrap.


That is a great idea! I really like that pineapple look.
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+1 to the pinaple Smile

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adam7027 wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:
only clear 18650 C8+ in stock currently ,sorry

the color of 21700 C8+ is black ,and it needs 20mm driver

Can you give me link for the Clear anodized 18650 C8+ ?

i add link here : clear C8+

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Inkidu wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:
Inkidu wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:
Satan@103TFS wrote:
Simon could you include 22 to 17 mm. driver adapter in the package?
Currently no adapter,sorry
I was wondering the same thing. A 17mm Led4power driver + Luxeon Mz might be good match for this host. Give me a chance to use the MosDTP 4040 board (copper not aluminum)

Looking at the Ali Express pill picture of the S11, maybe the driver retaining ring could be flipped around. And it would create a smaller shelf you could solder the driver to. You would need to carefully cut slots on the inner diameter of the ring so you could tighten it down. What are the dimensions of the retaining ring? Looks larger than a 17mm opening but there are a few 17mm To 20mm Brass Adapter Rings on Ebay.
Thanks for any help.

i will consider to produce some adapters if many guys need it

I would buy (10) 22mm to 17mm adapters. I understand you may need many more than that to justify the cost of making the adapters. I have many used 26650 cells that I would like to sell on with an inexpensive host. The newer 21700 cells seem to outperform the 26650 in every way that I can see and are manufactured by the major players.

My morning routine on my pc consist of checking my emails and then looking to see if any Convoy 21700 flashlights are available.

ok ,i will ask factory to produce some

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