【convoy】H4 and B35AM options are updated

[teacher]

@Convoylover

@hodor

@Tally-ho

I much prefer the first Simon’s idea over any big shape (square, diamond, whatever) knurlings that are horrendous (to me) :

@Simon Mao

…[cut]…
I don’t meant to make a smooth surface.
I just want to change a style, on the one hand, it will improve the product yield, on the other hand, keep the original feel of grip.
For example, I can change it to the following:

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Snap :+1:

Agree, that is a tasteful knurling to me

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I agree, this looks very good!! And Simon has already said it will save him a massive number of battery tubes that have to be scrapped in production. This saves a massive amlunt of money too… it’s a nobrainer to remove the knurling. :+1:

• Someone mentioned earlier that removing the knurling would negatively effect the S2+’s “status” as a great light.
• They also said the new design was “boring”. :person_facepalming:

Personally, I think both statements are totally wrong. The “status” of the Convoy S2+ is mostly based on function… great function. A ‘cosmetic’ change will in no way hinder that at all. The S2+ will retain it’s “status” as a great light.

As far as the new look being “boring”. That is simply an opinion. As is the fact that I think it looks great.

I think a smooth look is desirable also. Personally, I have no trouble at all holding a smooth object.

In fact, personally; I’m good & onboard with just about anything Simon decides to do about the battery tube exterior. I figure he will make a good choice, as well as a choice that will simplify the manufacturing process so as to cut down on scrapped parts.

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As far as the headlight/right angle light pictured below…. Very Nice!! :+1:
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[oweban]

Yeah, as much as I want a nicer UI, I’m super excited for both the H1 and the S11. Both looking super sexy!

[PBWilson]

I really love the facets on the tailcap of the headlamp. Very nicely done! I said it before and I’ll say it again: I’m really excited about all the new models and designs coming out. Also, listening to suggestions and feedback is really nice to hear. I love my Convoy lights and am certain that I’ll be enjoying some of these new models.

[7YP160214]

What about a strap for the headlamp? Will one be included or will it be sold as just a right angle light?

[Di_Joker]

@Simon Mao

i got some sample of frosted lens

Great flood light! It is very necessary for the premises and work hands.

[Simon_Mao]

@oweban

@Clayman83

Won’t it be more convenient to use short click to turn it on and off and long press for switching modes?

Ooooh yes!

• single press is on/off

• long press from off is moonlight

• double press from anywhere is turbo

• long press while on changes low/medium/high

Thanks ,good suggestion, but i have to change it in next batch now ,

[Simon_Mao]

@Agro

Simon, I love that H1:

• knowing your lights - good quality
• knowing your lights - superb value
• moonlight
• always starting low

I’d rather skip the strobe altogether, might be accidentally activated while changing modes.
And High CRI would be a nice option.

There was a big gap in the market below Skilhunt H03 and you’re the perfect maker to bridge that gap.
And 18350 tube is just a superb addition.

How much does H1 weigh?

71g not including the battery or clip

[Simon_Mao]

@hodor

Looks great!

I agree with other comments, high CRI would be nice and strobe seems like it could be activated intentionally when changing modes quickly.

Hopefully there’s no PWM like the T2.

@Simon Mao

Although it is PWM, the frequency is very high, I use a shutter time of 1/12000(my phone), and it is not easy to capture the flash.

[Simon_Mao]

@Lux-Perpetua

Hi Simon,

Many thanks for your frequent participation here and for the great stuff you have for sale. :+1:

Some questions:

1. Do you offer the S11 host with SMO and OP reflector or OP only? I would like to order 2 hosts with SMO if possible.

18.52€ |Schwarz/silber/grau convoy S11 host|Taschenlampen| - AliExpress

2. Do you see any chance to source high quality bin SST-40 in 5000K? I saw you have 6.500K for sale but neutralwhite would be fantastic.

5.6€ |Luminus sst40 6500k mit DTP kupfer bord|Taschenlampen| - AliExpress

3. Many many thanks for those L6 switches! I would like to get some more L6 tailcap switches and rubber caps again with my next order. Any chance to get these again?



4. Any news so far about the XHP35 boost driver for L2? Would this driver also work in the S11 host (22mm diameter)?

Cheers,

Thomas

1.SMO for S11 is in production now.
2.i’m sorry ,i didnt get 5000K,i will try in future
3.yes,i can send you more if you need
4.i change my plan ,i’m ready to install XHP35 in L6 ,i will get a driver sample (output 2A) in three days

[Simon_Mao]

@sochi111

@Ryzbor

2. ad a usable sub 0.5 lumen moon, the current one is too bright for preserving night vision (camping etc.)

Would a red or green light be better for preserving night vision?
Does the switch have an indicator light? Sometimes they call it location or battery power indicator.

there is no indicator ,
I used a translucent button to reserve this function, because later I will launch another H1 version with charging port.

[Simon_Mao]

@adam7027

@Simon Mao

To: sochi111

following one will be available in one week

max output 2500mA
0.1%moonlight-3%low-30%mid-100%high ,strobe(double-click the switch); if the flashlight is turned off ,press the side switch,flashlight can enter into moonlight mode directly.

Congratulations Simon on the first Convoy headlamp :partying_face:

I will probably have a few questions, if they are not already asked by other members

EDIT:

I already have them (questions, suggestions, requests mixed):

@Simon Mao

it’s too compact to modify it ,but i can supply special version according to BLFers’ requirements

- Currently I don’t know, how the headlamp driver works, only the available modes in the UI. Is the headlamp driver is a buck driver (which converts down from 4.2-3.0V of the battery to the voltage required by the LED, without burning off the excess voltage), so it could be also very good at using low forward voltage LEDs for a prolonged time in low to medium modes? Or that driver works similarly (or identically) to the 7135×N (N: 3,4,6,8) drivers?

- To get the most potential out of this headlamp, access to the LED and optics should be relatively easy (preferably, if a driver would need a replacement in the future, that should be also possible).

- I think, support for TIR lens would be essential for this headlamp, as this can give a great customizability over the form of the light beam - my suggestion would be to support the d=20mm h=12.8mm Yajiamei TIR lens, as they offer a wide range of options.

- A few members already mentioned 18350 tubes. I think, if this headlamp would have 18350 tube as well, it could be a great gift for women - especially, if there will be a few more alternative color for the body (I think, the same red anodization as the S2+ bodies, and the clear anodization variant could be a good starting point).

- I would like to share suggestions about UI for the driver, if you would like to consider them

1.just similar to 7135*N
2.sorry ,the lens is not suitable,i will launch another lens version\
3.yes,i plan to produce 18350 tube and red anodization can be made in the future

[Simon_Mao]

@7YP160214

What about a strap for the headlamp? Will one be included or will it be sold as a just a right angle light?

no lanyard hole,
of cause i can add some if buyers need it

[oweban]

Simon, you’re absolutely incredible - I love how you take on all the feedback from the community. Definitely a very good way to keep a loyal customer base

I might wait for an updated H1 with the new UI, but will be placing another order as soon as the S11 drops

[maukka]

Simon, I just received two C8+ with 219C 4000K from you. Please fix the driver on them. Toykeeper will explain what’s wrong.

They have visible PWM on moonlight and all the other modes use a wrong PWM frequency as well. This also makes the configuration mode advance way too fast and have too fast a strobe.

[Album] Convoy C8+

Also, the tint on those emitters is pretty bad. Worst 219C I have personally seen with a duv of 0.0075 on one and 0.0049 on the other. The focus of the reflector is also very different on my two samples.

Any of this doesn’t matter to me personally since these are just going to be a throwier light for calibration of spheres, but someone who actually uses them might not like what they see.

[Clayman83]

Well, I think that the next version of H1 whith suggested UI, proper modes, tir-compatible,18350 tube, possibility to change Led and charging port will be just awesome. It will be a new Zl killer:)

[ToyKeeper]

@maukka

Simon, I just received two C8+ with 219C 4000K from you. Please fix the driver on them. Toykeeper will explain what’s wrong.

Maukka measured the PWM speed on each mode:

• 2.25 kHz moon
• 17.9 kHz low
• 36 kHz all other modes

The 36 kHz speed means the driver was flashed with the wrong fuse values.

The 2.25 kHz moon means the driver has a very old version of the firmware on it, from 2016, calibrated for nanjg 105d drivers which were never actually used. This was fixed two years ago, along with some other issues.

If at all possible, I would strongly recommend updating to a newer type of driver, perhaps one with two power channels and an attiny25v or attiny85v chip. This would improve performance and allow for a nicer UI. If not though, it would be a good idea to at least update the firmware on the existing drivers.

[Simon_Mao]

@ToyKeeper

@maukka

Simon, I just received two C8+ with 219C 4000K from you. Please fix the driver on them. Toykeeper will explain what’s wrong.

Maukka measured the PWM speed on each mode:

• 2.25 kHz moon
• 17.9 kHz low
• 36 kHz all other modes

The 36 kHz speed means the driver was flashed with the wrong fuse values.

The 2.25 kHz moon means the driver has a very old version of the firmware on it, from 2016, calibrated for nanjg 105d drivers which were never actually used. This was fixed two years ago, along with some other issues.

If at all possible, I would strongly recommend updating to a newer type of driver, perhaps one with two power channels and an attiny25v or attiny85v chip. This would improve performance and allow for a nicer UI. If not though, it would be a good idea to at least update the firmware on the existing drivers.

So much thanks ,Ms Tk ,i will send these data to driver manufacturer

[Boaz]

@Marc E

@Lightbringer

Poor Simon… Everyone wants knurling, and no knurling. USB charging and no USB charging. Metal button and rubber button. X and not X. Y and not Y. Z and not Z. I think I’d just grab a coupla beers and slide down the emergency chute…

That’s only 64 different configs so offer them all, i don’t see what the problem is. The easy way out is to just offer the best light ever. I’d buy that, the best light ever (as long as it can take a 21700). Oh wait, you missed battery options, that’s 192 different configs… still doable imio. (On a slightly more serious note i’m tempted by the S11 and am looking forward to the 21700 S2+, definitely going to get a couple of them.)

Fastech and Convoy made this combo work and it made convoy a huge success here because it basically let people buy pre-made custom lights .two things that slipped over time has been the better tint options ...and better ano colors . The red green purple blue copper etc were a waste of time imho. The Sand is epic and the new designs are very nice . love the C8 and the S11 Glad to see Simon here and hope he can filter thru all the noise .

[Simon_Mao]

@maukka

Simon, I just received two C8+ with 219C 4000K from you. Please fix the driver on them. Toykeeper will explain what’s wrong.

They have visible PWM on moonlight and all the other modes use a wrong PWM frequency as well. This also makes the configuration mode advance way too fast and have too fast a strobe.

https://imgur.com/a/XqfMM4f

Also, the tint on those emitters is pretty bad. Worst 219C I have personally seen with a duv of 0.0075 on one and 0.0049 on the other. The focus of the reflector is also very different on my two samples.

Any of this doesn’t matter to me personally since these are just going to be a throwier light for calibration of spheres, but someone who actually uses them might not like what they see.

thanks for you data,manufacturer told me that he use ATTINY13A,
he will try 25V,

is it possible to test one more time if you remove the ar-coated glass lens?

and what is the full name of Duv? i want to learn more

[ToyKeeper]

@Simon Mao

i will send these data to driver manufacturer

manufacturer told me that he use ATTINY13A,
he will try 25V,

I don’t know the details of your situation or your manufacturer, but if you would like newer or nicer drivers, we can probably arrange something. BLF’s two-channel design works well and provides a wide range of output. It could be FET+AMC7135 or 7x7135+1x7135, or it could even use FET+7+1. It depends on how high the high modes should go.

For clicky-switch lights, people seem to like Bistro, Crescendo, and gchart’s ramping UI.

For e-switch lights, if you use an attiny85v MCU, it could run any UI in the FSM suite. The most popular one is Anduril, but it’s also easy to make new UIs. It could be anything you like.

The new Convoy headlamp looks very nice. Depending on your needs and your driver, the headlamp might be a good place to try FSM.

Anyway, there are many possibilities. We should talk in a private message or email if you are interested in trying something new.