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Tumbleweed48 wrote:

Is that a record number for a BLF/TLF initiative?


It kind of depends on whether the manufacturer puts a limit on the number of lights sold at the cheaper, group buy price. I’m surprised they are allowing 2000. Their profit margin goes up the more they can sale at the regular, higher price. Anyway, it seems the list keeps growing. Big Smile
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News has it that the (most probably) last hurdle of this project is the delayed availability of the optics before production commences.

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I sure hope so.. I’ve followed this from the beginning. Can’t (but can) believe it’s been nearly two years. I dream of the day my inbox has that new unread message from FW3A Team Tired

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Thanks for the update tatasal…. Thumbs Up

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Thanks for the update tatasal…. Thumbs Up
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tatasal wrote:
News has it that the (most probably) last hurdle of this project is the delayed availability of the optics before production commences.

Thanks for the latest news. Does the news include clarification whether they’re still having trouble sourcing high CRI emitters, or is it possible this is the last hurdle only before the XP-L HI version starts production?

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I think the anticipation is the greater part of the fun – admit it, three days after the light shows up it’ll be on the shelf with the other 40 lights we don’t use, and we’ll be griping because The Next Great Thing is taking so long to arrive. Facepalm

Enjoy the anticipation, it’ll be over soon.

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Tumbleweed48 wrote:
I think the anticipation is the greater part of the fun – admit it, three days after the light shows up it’ll be on the shelf with the other 40 lights we don’t use, and we’ll be griping because The Next Great Thing is taking so long to arrive. Facepalm

Enjoy the anticipation, it’ll be over soon.


The problem there will be the other 40 lights Big Smile

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admit it, three days after the light shows up it’ll be on the shelf with the other 40 lights we don’t use

I think this one is an exception in that in many cases, possibly most, it will take over EDC duties from other lights.
Could be the first EDC light that combines very practical small size with 18650 power, rear switch to avoid accidental activation, and lots of nifty features to play with.
The side switch is the only reason the D4 is not my EDC, or it would be holding this spot.

Beam me up!

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One other advantage of making more lights are lower bulk prices.

Let’s just say the light costs 25$US(SST-20/LH351D) to make and ship at 1000pcs.

Well, the price could go down to 24$US if they are able to make 1500pcs, and 23,50$US at 2000pcs.

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Tumbleweed48 wrote:
I think the anticipation is the greater part of the fun – admit it, three days after the light shows up it’ll be on the shelf with the other 40 lights we don’t use, and we’ll be griping because The Next Great Thing is taking so long to arrive. Facepalm

Enjoy the anticipation, it’ll be over soon.

no this will actually be a handy light to have in your pockets.

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tatasal wrote:
News has it that the (most probably) last hurdle of this project is the delayed availability of the optics before production commences.

Thanks for the latest news. Does the news include clarification whether they’re still having trouble sourcing high CRI emitters, or is it possible this is the last hurdle only before the XP-L HI version starts production?

LH351D still “sourceless’ , after the optics issue, the xpl-hi will proceed as planned, barring again another unforeseen circumstance.

As l previously said, let’s enjoy the lights that we HAVE in the meantime!

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ToyKeeper wrote:
Aside from the extra cost, and aside from people wanting high CRI, I’d kinda prefer to do a spread of XP-L HI tints instead. ~3300K, ~4100K, ~4900K, ~5700K, all in “A” or “D” tints so they’d be on the pink side of BBL. Or perhaps they can be convinced to do a Cree spread and a high-CRI emitter.

This. This right here. How do we get you in charge?

I’ll take a 3300K and 4100K XP-L HI and one of the terrible hi-CRI versions to swap in some 219B’s.

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for all those that want the LH351D it seems the wait will be long until we hear anything they decide to do wait for those or change emitter to something else.

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I would not hold my breath on the EVER seeing the LH351D in this light….how many Chinese made flashlights other than a couple of Zebralights are there with Samsung LH351D stock? – VERY few….

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The BLF Lantern Smile

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The BLF Lantern Smile
Silly I’m on that list for 2 also….IF it ever happens to come true.
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I mean, Barry did say they found a Samsung LH351D supplier.

So, that means a large company like Lumintop shouldn’t have any problems, right?

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I think it stems from the fact that Samsung is South Korean (Racial & Cultural Animosity) and that Samsung does not have a LED plant(s) in China (Import duties? Prohibitions?)….

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I think it stems from the fact that Samsung is South Korean (Racial & Cultural Animosity) and that Samsung does not have a LED plant(s) in China (Import duties? Prohibitions?)….

Lol Samsung, LG and all the other electronics producers in Korea wouldn’t be around if “cultural animosity” was a real issue and people somehow cared about it more than running a business. Where do you think most of their production (or assembly at least) is located?

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I would not hold my breath on the EVER seeing the LH351D in this light….how many Chinese made flashlights other than a couple of Zebralights are there with Samsung LH351D stock? – VERY few….

yeah the only part that is confusing is that the emitter was confirmed ages ago… o well

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I would not hold my breath on the EVER seeing the LH351D in this light….how many Chinese made flashlights other than a couple of Zebralights are there with Samsung LH351D stock? – VERY few….

yeah the only part that is confusing is that the emitter was confirmed ages ago… o well

Innocent ‘Confirmed’ does not translate directly from Chinese to mean the same as ‘Confirmed’ in the ‘West’….
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tundraotto wrote:
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yeah the only part that is confusing is that the emitter was confirmed ages ago… o well
Innocent ‘Confirmed’ does not translate directly from Chinese to mean the same as ‘Confirmed’ in the ‘West’….
So very true… Big Smile . Thumbs Up

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tundraotto wrote:
I think it stems from the fact that Samsung is South Korean (Racial & Cultural Animosity) and that Samsung does not have a LED plant(s) in China (Import duties? Prohibitions?)….

Lol Samsung, LG and all the other electronics producers in Korea wouldn’t be around if “cultural animosity” was a real issue and people somehow cared about it more than running a business. Where do you think most of their production (or assembly at least) is located?

Most is by far in South Korea, I am surprised there is any in China.

https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/about-us/manufacturing-centers/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-samsung-elec-smartphones-china/samsun...

Cultural and racial animosity is VERY much part of real life – Keeping, and/or losing face is a very big part of most Asian culture. Chinese – South Korean diplomatic relations BEGAN in 1992 – that is less than 30 years ago!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93South_Korea_relations

I assume you have not visited the Far East very much….as far as the people – China is not run by ‘the people’ if you have not heard…it is run by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). If they don’t want Samsung LH351D’s in Chinese manufactured flashlights – I’d be willing to bet that you would be ‘discouraged’ from putting Samsung LH351D LEDs in anything. Unless that was approved by the party either directly or indirectly. The tail does not wag the dog.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/command-and-control-ch...

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Zulumoose wrote:
Tumbleweed48 wrote:
admit it, three days after the light shows up it’ll be on the shelf with the other 40 lights we don’t use

I think this one is an exception in that in many cases, possibly most, it will take over EDC duties from other lights.

YMMV, of course. However, I can say that, at least for me, my other lights haven’t gotten much use since Dec 2017 when I got my first FW3A prototype.

It’s pretty crazy that things are taking so long to go to production though… that was 15 months ago. I’m pretty sure I’ve never had a light be my primary EDC for that long before. Some have come close… the L3 L10-219 stuck around for a relatively long time. And if I count my Olight S1 Ti, S-Mini Cu, and S-Mini Ti as one light, I carried those for a long time too. But now I mostly just keep the FW3A on me, and I don’t really feel the need to bring anything else unless I think I’ll need a thrower. It’s a pretty good little general-purpose light stick.

But as stated, your mileage may vary. I’m biased, since I tend to like stuff I made (or helped make) more than I like off-the-shelf stock items.

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Please add me to the list for 1 of each. Thanks all!

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I’m anxious to have the flashlight. Big Smile

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tundraotto wrote:
BurningPlayd0h wrote:
tundraotto wrote:
I think it stems from the fact that Samsung is South Korean (Racial & Cultural Animosity) and that Samsung does not have a LED plant(s) in China (Import duties? Prohibitions?)….

Lol Samsung, LG and all the other electronics producers in Korea wouldn’t be around if “cultural animosity” was a real issue and people somehow cared about it more than running a business. Where do you think most of their production (or assembly at least) is located?

Most is by far in South Korea, I am surprised there is any in China.

Number of production centers isn’t indicative of percentage of total production

https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/about-us/manufacturing-centers/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-samsung-elec-smartphones-china/samsun...

Cultural and racial animosity is VERY much part of real life – Keeping, and/or losing face is a very big part of most Asian culture. Chinese – South Korean diplomatic relations BEGAN in 1992 – that is less than 30 years ago!

The ROK govt’s official stances aren’t indicative of the feelings of all South Koreans, let alone a major electronics manufacturer, AKA an organization with the first priority of making profit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93South_Korea_relations

I assume you have not visited the Far East very much….as far as the people – China is not run by ‘the people’ if you have not heard…it is run by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). If they don’t want Samsung LH351D’s in Chinese manufactured flashlights – I’d be willing to bet that you would be ‘discouraged’ from putting Samsung LH351D LEDs in anything. Unless that was approved by the party either directly or indirectly. The tail does not wag the dog.

I’m positive the CCP has bigger concerns, but if you can share any evidence of them taking such a petty approach to components used in products there on the basis on national origin/ownership I’d be interested in seeing it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/command-and-control-ch...

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