Well, you know, you could build a shovel with a 24k gold-plated titanium blade, machined from a solid billet, and hand carve a handle out of solid rosewood. And it pitches dirt just like a $10 shovel at Ace Hardware. But if you need an EDC to stow in your GUCCI man-purse… Really, do people this rich swap out their own batteries?
I’m pretty sure that people who carry a Gucci man-purse don’t even know how to open their $3000 EDC flashlight to change the battery. But if they did, they’d put a brand new one in and donate the “used” one to Goodwill or throw it away.
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The Cycle of Goodness: “No one prospers without rendering benefit to others”
- The YKK Philosophy
Thanks for sharing. And ‘only’ 3 Bills. I’m gonna jump right on that… .
3 bills is 3 thousand to you? You roll hard…. a bill to me is a C-note..
God I hate marketing.. The more hype terms they use, the more I know I am getting screwed
intensities, er levels?
monocoque case,,,er metal tube
Copper..no wait POLISHED copper AND gold plated…
electronic minutiae and on and on… Not a light.. it’s a ….torch
Well, you know, you could build a shovel with a 24k gold-plated titanium blade, machined from a solid billet, and hand carve a handle out of solid rosewood. And it pitches dirt just like a $10 shovel at Ace Hardware. But if you need an EDC to stow in your GUCCI man-purse… Really, do people this rich swap out their own batteries?
They do not swap out batteries mostly but if they do they feel very manly afterwards.
I’d like to know how many they actually sell. I just cannot imagine who would actually buy something like this. Well, besides someone with far, far, faaarrr to much expendable money.
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You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
Really, do people this rich swap out their own batteries?
The price is within the range of what median Americans regularly choose in options on a new car.
We’re not necessarily talking about fabulously rich buyers, although obviously the market for this kind of light is going to skew very strongly towards the higher incomes. We’re talking about buyers who place a high value on lights that are not only functional, but unique and attractive.
264 wrote:
The 1% . Not us.
Remember, there’s over 3 million 1-percenters in the US. Among the several hundred people you probably know by name, there are likely some who fall into that 1 in 100 income level that you didn’t even realize, because most people who work in a very specialized field of medicine or engineering, or who have grown successful businesses from the ground up aren’t pretentious.
The one’s that are pretentious definitely are the ones who get noticed, though.
It only takes a small percentage of that number of people taking an interest in a boutique item to create a viable market, whether that’s a watch, a purse, cosmetic customizations for a vehicle, etc.
Fun fact: according to Bloomberg, Swiss luxury watch makers last year sold 3.8 million watches worth an average of $2100 each!
When they come out with one that has anti-skid features with an attack-head, 4 gears and 5 files, that can act as a brick smaher and glass broker, then I’ll buy it.
Well, you know, you could build a shovel with a 24k gold-plated titanium blade, machined from a solid billet, and hand carve a handle out of solid rosewood. And it pitches dirt just like a $10 shovel at Ace Hardware. But if you need an EDC to stow in your GUCCI man-purse… Really, do people this rich swap out their own batteries?
They do not swap out batteries mostly but if they do they feel very manly afterwards.
Well they don’t swap out batteries because it may ruin the manicure.
Really, do people this rich swap out their own batteries?
The price is within the range of what median Americans regularly choose in options on a new car.
We’re not necessarily talking about fabulously rich buyers, although obviously the market for this kind of light is going to skew very strongly towards the higher incomes. We’re talking about buyers who place a high value on lights that are not only functional, but unique and attractive.
264 wrote:
The 1% . Not us.
Remember, there’s over 3 million 1-percenters in the US. Among the several hundred people you probably know by name, there are likely some who fall into that 1 in 100 income level that you didn’t even realize, because most people who work in a very specialized field of medicine or engineering, or who have grown successful businesses from the ground up aren’t pretentious.
The one’s that are pretentious definitely are the ones who get noticed, though.
It only takes a small percentage of that number of people taking an interest in a boutique item to create a viable market, whether that’s a watch, a purse, cosmetic customizations for a vehicle, etc.
Fun fact: according to Bloomberg, Swiss luxury watch makers last year sold 3.8 million watches worth an average of $2100 each!
Don’t get me wrong… I do appreciate quality stuff and rare materials. I personally don’t see the value in this. Now, if they somehow can put an XHP 70.2 in there and make it output 5000 lumens that would be actually cool. This doesn’t even put out 500 lumens. And it looks like a reflector from kaidomain. Even the claims of gold-plated contacts are meant to conjure up thoughts of exclusivity – the cheapest Chinese circuit boards have gold-plated contacts. Gold doesn’t make better contacts – it just makes more anti-corrosive contacts; there are metals that have higher conductivity than gold. Gold is so soft and can be stretched out so far that plating the miniscule contacts amounts to pennies worth of gold. Sapphire lens – my $149 Armitron watch has a sapphire lens. O-ring seals, just like a $5 UltraFire light.. It’s nice, but not $3000 nice. Not even $1000 nice. It’s a fancy tube that has electronics inside that can be found in a light you can buy for under $20. There’s no exclusivity there.
On the other hand (no pun intended) I love watches. A watch as a man’s accessory is timeless (again no pun intended.) And there is precision craftsmanship on a microscopic level with insanely small tolerances.
If restaurants exist that charge 200 bucks for a few morsals that probably have less nutritional value then a big mack, why not a 3000 buck flashlight.
I know of a down to earth guy who was a CEO and parachuted out. He can’t find ways to spend something like 30 million a year income….although I try to help him. What difference would a $3,000 flashlight mean to him?
Here is one way I think of it….if I add a zero to my net worth, I subtract a zero from my toys. A guy like that is 3 zeros above our heads. Subtract three zeros and it’s a 3 buck light.
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Moses came from the mountaintop carrying a tablet. The Words were....WITH GREAT LUMENS COMES GREAT REPONSIBILITY.
Harrumph! This thing is operating at many levels: Technology applied to art, art applied to technology, conspicuous consumerism, an expression of self-perceived self-worth, trophy flashlight, unrestrained capitalism, clever charlatanism, class warfare ..., I could go on.
I appreciate this light. It speaks to me, where the species stands technology-wise/art-wise. But it is not much of a value functionally. A waste of money for most of us. I could settle for the Flieger Mk.1 Aluminum Bronze. $550.00, nice to look at, 720 Lm, and a size more suited to my short fingers and wide palms. And Aluminum Bronze. Don't see that everyday.
I'm sorta new here. So how do those group buys work? Anybody interested?
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Don't tell fish stories where the people know you; but particularly, don't tell them where they know the fish. -- Mark Twain
Those flashlights on Etsy are cool. Handmade and unique. And best of all at a reasonable price. Almost all the money goes to the artist. Not making fun of Etsy at all. They have nice accessories for Victorinox knives also.
Don’t get me wrong… I do appreciate quality stuff and rare materials. I personally don’t see the value in this. Now, if they somehow can put an XHP 70.2 in there and make it output 5000 lumens that would be actually cool. This doesn’t even put out 500 lumens. And it looks like a reflector from kaidomain. Even the claims of gold-plated contacts are meant to conjure up thoughts of exclusivity – the cheapest Chinese circuit boards have gold-plated contacts. Gold doesn’t make better contacts – it just makes more anti-corrosive contacts; there are metals that have higher conductivity than gold. Gold is so soft and can be stretched out so far that plating the miniscule contacts amounts to pennies worth of gold. Sapphire lens – my $149 Armitron watch has a sapphire lens. O-ring seals, just like a $5 UltraFire light.. It’s nice, but not $3000 nice. Not even $1000 nice. It’s a fancy tube that has electronics inside that can be found in a light you can buy for under $20. There’s no exclusivity there.
On the other hand (no pun intended) I love watches. A watch as a man’s accessory is timeless (again no pun intended.) And there is precision craftsmanship on a microscopic level with insanely small tolerances.
I agree with what you’re saying. But just for a little perspective. The host of this flashlight is possibly over $1000 worth of just raw material, meaning before it was machined into a flashlight host. Look up Moku-Ti online. I found a place that sells Damascus plates for making knife parts. A thin plate of Moku-Ti was over $500 there. I’m not saying it’s “worth” that much to me but it seems to be worth it to some people. That means this flashlight, if truly made to a quality level, might be “worth” $1500. Still not seeing $3000 for sure.
—
The Cycle of Goodness: “No one prospers without rendering benefit to others”
- The YKK Philosophy
Nice, but i would be afraid to lose such an expensive light
hmmmm
Do I buy two used motorbikes
or one flashlight that doesn’t even ship with a battery?
I was marveling at the cool light,
then I stumbled on it…
I'll sell you my Beagle for $1500.00
It's actually a bagel.... half beagle, half basset and half the price.
καὶ τὸ φῶς ἐν τῇ σκοτίᾳ φαίνει καὶ ἡ σκοτία αὐτὸ οὐ κατέλαβεν
Dc-fix diffuser film >… http://budgetlightforum.com/node/42208
Well, you know, you could build a shovel with a 24k gold-plated titanium blade, machined from a solid billet, and hand carve a handle out of solid rosewood. And it pitches dirt just like a $10 shovel at Ace Hardware. But if you need an EDC to stow in your GUCCI man-purse… Really, do people this rich swap out their own batteries?
I’m pretty sure that people who carry a Gucci man-purse don’t even know how to open their $3000 EDC flashlight to change the battery. But if they did, they’d put a brand new one in and donate the “used” one to Goodwill or throw it away.
The Cycle of Goodness: “No one prospers without rendering benefit to others”
- The YKK Philosophy
This is hilarious. Thanks for sharing
“Calibre 1116 Light Engine”
translation : Yep we are egregiously overpriced but so is your watch
Thanks for sharing. And ‘only’ 3 Bills. I’m gonna jump right on that…
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God I hate marketing.. The more hype terms they use, the more I know I am getting screwed
intensities, er levels?
monocoque case,,,er metal tube
Copper..no wait POLISHED copper AND gold plated… electronic minutiae and on and on… Not a light.. it’s a ….torch
anyone in NE ILLinois into get togethers?
Beautiful light!
Mine has gears!
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The Leather Case/Holster costs $325…..
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They do not swap out batteries mostly but if they do they feel very manly afterwards.
Man do I feel hoi·ty-toi·ty when I buy myself a $50.00 gadget. Got to rethink this…………..
I’d like to know how many they actually sell. I just cannot imagine who would actually buy something like this. Well, besides someone with far, far, faaarrr to much expendable money.
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
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The 1% . Not us.
I guess so… cause is sure is not me.
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
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The price is within the range of what median Americans regularly choose in options on a new car.
We’re not necessarily talking about fabulously rich buyers, although obviously the market for this kind of light is going to skew very strongly towards the higher incomes. We’re talking about buyers who place a high value on lights that are not only functional, but unique and attractive.
Remember, there’s over 3 million 1-percenters in the US. Among the several hundred people you probably know by name, there are likely some who fall into that 1 in 100 income level that you didn’t even realize, because most people who work in a very specialized field of medicine or engineering, or who have grown successful businesses from the ground up aren’t pretentious.
The one’s that are pretentious definitely are the ones who get noticed, though.
It only takes a small percentage of that number of people taking an interest in a boutique item to create a viable market, whether that’s a watch, a purse, cosmetic customizations for a vehicle, etc.
Fun fact: according to Bloomberg, Swiss luxury watch makers last year sold 3.8 million watches worth an average of $2100 each!
Sweet … I’ll take a dozen … do you think they’ll take a check?
When they come out with one that has anti-skid features with an attack-head, 4 gears and 5 files, that can act as a brick smaher and glass broker, then I’ll buy it.
Until then…
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
If anyone can spend $3000.00 on basically a toy flashlight you have too much money.
Yep, and don’t forget that $325 Leather Case. It must be made out of expertly tanned Unicorn hide.
You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant
.................................. "Slow is Smooth, Smooth is Fast" ...................................
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Well they don’t swap out batteries because it may ruin the manicure.
Don’t get me wrong… I do appreciate quality stuff and rare materials. I personally don’t see the value in this. Now, if they somehow can put an XHP 70.2 in there and make it output 5000 lumens that would be actually cool. This doesn’t even put out 500 lumens. And it looks like a reflector from kaidomain. Even the claims of gold-plated contacts are meant to conjure up thoughts of exclusivity – the cheapest Chinese circuit boards have gold-plated contacts. Gold doesn’t make better contacts – it just makes more anti-corrosive contacts; there are metals that have higher conductivity than gold. Gold is so soft and can be stretched out so far that plating the miniscule contacts amounts to pennies worth of gold. Sapphire lens – my $149 Armitron watch has a sapphire lens. O-ring seals, just like a $5 UltraFire light.. It’s nice, but not $3000 nice. Not even $1000 nice. It’s a fancy tube that has electronics inside that can be found in a light you can buy for under $20. There’s no exclusivity there.
On the other hand (no pun intended) I love watches. A watch as a man’s accessory is timeless (again no pun intended.) And there is precision craftsmanship on a microscopic level with insanely small tolerances.
If anyone wants an artsy fartsy flashlight look at this:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/600620979/handmade-wooden-flashlight-jack
If restaurants exist that charge 200 bucks for a few morsals that probably have less nutritional value then a big mack, why not a 3000 buck flashlight.
I know of a down to earth guy who was a CEO and parachuted out. He can’t find ways to spend something like 30 million a year income….although I try to help him. What difference would a $3,000 flashlight mean to him?
Here is one way I think of it….if I add a zero to my net worth, I subtract a zero from my toys. A guy like that is 3 zeros above our heads. Subtract three zeros and it’s a 3 buck light.
Moses came from the mountaintop carrying a tablet. The Words were....WITH GREAT LUMENS COMES GREAT REPONSIBILITY.
Harrumph! This thing is operating at many levels: Technology applied to art, art applied to technology, conspicuous consumerism, an expression of self-perceived self-worth, trophy flashlight, unrestrained capitalism, clever charlatanism, class warfare ..., I could go on.
I appreciate this light. It speaks to me, where the species stands technology-wise/art-wise. But it is not much of a value functionally. A waste of money for most of us. I could settle for the Flieger Mk.1 Aluminum Bronze. $550.00, nice to look at, 720 Lm, and a size more suited to my short fingers and wide palms. And Aluminum Bronze. Don't see that everyday.
I'm sorta new here. So how do those group buys work? Anybody interested?
Don't tell fish stories where the people know you; but particularly, don't tell them where they know the fish. -- Mark Twain
Those flashlights on Etsy are cool. Handmade and unique. And best of all at a reasonable price. Almost all the money goes to the artist. Not making fun of Etsy at all. They have nice accessories for Victorinox knives also.
I agree with what you’re saying. But just for a little perspective. The host of this flashlight is possibly over $1000 worth of just raw material, meaning before it was machined into a flashlight host. Look up Moku-Ti online. I found a place that sells Damascus plates for making knife parts. A thin plate of Moku-Ti was over $500 there. I’m not saying it’s “worth” that much to me but it seems to be worth it to some people. That means this flashlight, if truly made to a quality level, might be “worth” $1500. Still not seeing $3000 for sure.
The Cycle of Goodness: “No one prospers without rendering benefit to others”
- The YKK Philosophy
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