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whats a ‘coast’? lol catching isnt it lol.

and a Coast 14?

I think some people just go into over protection mode when they don’t get it, but if you want it to ramp you suss it straight away, if you don’t its such a stupid peace of…..

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Fast forward to me taking exception to a phone light. It’s not suicide, it’s suicidal. The risk is not worth a lousy dirt cheap 20 dollar flashlight.

BTW…..if many European countries, you have to have flares and a yellow jacket in the car for the same reason I am concerned and associated danger.

No yellow accoutrements, but to this day I keep about a half-dozen flares (the burny kind) in each car, for just such occasions.

Don’t hafta worry about whether/not they’re charged, or leaked, or anything of the kind. They Just Work.

And the reason I carry TWO flashlights.

The car I have has the battery in the back. I wanted to carry flares but if there is a water leak, I don’t want a surprise of what a battery discharge can to to a flare. Having said that….it’s been a looooong while since I looked at flares.

Is there such a thing as being too careful and anticipating the worse? Maybe…but it’s only tiny money to begin with.

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Wow, this thread is cringey.

Most people just don’t care about flashlights. Fact. It’s a hobby that usually just isn’t worth broadcasting. Even a cheap Amazon light is perfectly adequate for most peoples’ needs in the grand scheme of things.

I have one friend who is into tech and he loves it when I take a new light over to his house and he proceeds to blind everything around him, but that’s it. Nobody else cares and I don’t bother them with it unless they ask. Even then it’s usually just “is that another new torch?” to which I just reply “yep, new toy”.

I’ve had those friends and acquaintances, they all have one habit in common, any light will do..besides, they knick mine because theirs are real crappy, but, it’ll do me… i dont need to see with a light lol…cringe.. guess they’re borrowing mine hu?

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I side 100% with the woman in this story. 30 seconds of advice is helpful. Spending 15 minutes with a stranger buying a flashlight is creepy. You were just trying to help, but she probably saw it as weird. I don’t blame her for being suspicious.

Frankly, you are probably lucky she only saw it as you being a shill. I would have pepper-sprayed you after 5 minutes. Wink

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“Oh, I’d say a BLF Q8 with bypassed springs and some ‘351Ds in there, with unprotected 30Q button-tops, and, uhh, oh!, and don’t forget a decent charger like an Opus or Miboxer…”

 

     “Whut?”

Between these two posts I am getting a quite comical image of what actually transpired at that Home Depot. Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

As far as information, whether it be about flashlights or something else; less is sometimes more. Wink

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Spartan wrote:
And the reason I carry TWO flashlights.

Only 2? Piker…

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The car I have has the battery in the back. I wanted to carry flares but if there is a water leak, I don’t want a surprise of what a battery discharge can to to a flare. Having said that….it’s been a looooong while since I looked at flares.

I still got and carried in my old car a 20mm ammo box. About the size of a toaster-oven if stood on-end. Kept all my flammables in there, including/especially fluids. Also had huge bungee cords and ratcheting tie-down straps to hold it in-place so it wouldn’t turn into a rather heavy projectile in case of a wreck.

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Is there such a thing as being too careful and anticipating the worse? Maybe…but it’s only tiny money to begin with.

People’ve said I carry more “emergency” crap in my car than most cops have. Yeah, sounds about right…

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I side 100% with the woman in this story. 30 seconds of advice is helpful. Spending 15 minutes with a stranger buying a flashlight is creepy. You were just trying to help, but she probably saw it as weird. I don’t blame her for being suspicious.

Frankly, you are probably lucky she only saw it as you being a shill. I would have pepper-sprayed you after 5 minutes. Wink

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“Oh, I’d say a BLF Q8 with bypassed springs and some ‘351Ds in there, with unprotected 30Q button-tops, and, uhh, oh!, and don’t forget a decent charger like an Opus or Miboxer…”

 

     “Whut?”

Between these two posts I am getting a quite comical image of what actually transpired at that Home Depot. Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

As far as information, whether it be about flashlights or something else; less is sometimes more. Wink

you’ve heard of the SHTF scinario? i’ve learned by trail and error to STFU when i’m in a store hahaha…else it can be when the SHTF.. sad innit.

a little diverse but, some woman i was seeing was having a tizzy fit at the checkout, it seems there were kids running about all over the place ffs!! no parent supervision or anything, i made the mistake of pointing its a kiddies toy store…..fff yeah.. lol.

some days your never going to win.

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whats a ‘coast’? lol catching isnt it lol.

and a Coast 14?

I think some people just go into over protection mode when they don’t get it, but if you want it to ramp you suss it straight away, if you don’t its such a stupid peace of…..

This is the Coast 14

https://coastportland.com/product/hp14/

There are people who hate it. I have three, two which are at work. They have been through hell and back and still work. Dropped? I dropped them on concrete floors at least a dozen times over the years, my guys probably used them for bats.

In the end of the day, I think she probably bought the Coast and probably went to Ikea. Ikea was like a bingo reaction and she was holding the Coast when I left her. In hind sight, maybe it was her “big male” defensiveness that kicked in inadvertently. Maybe I over reacted to what may have been her throwaway comment.

At this point….whatever.

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As far as information, whether it be about flashlights or something else; less is sometimes more. Wink

Like I said…

“This better. Shinier. Light up more.”

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Spartan wrote:
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whats a ‘coast’? lol catching isnt it lol.

and a Coast 14?

I think some people just go into over protection mode when they don’t get it, but if you want it to ramp you suss it straight away, if you don’t its such a stupid peace of…..

This is the Coast 14

https://coastportland.com/product/hp14/

There are people who hate it. I have three, two which are at work. They have been through hell and back and still work. Dropped? I dropped them on concrete floors at least a dozen times over the years, my guys probably used them for bats.

In the end of the day, I think she probably bought the Coast and probably went to Ikea. Ikea was like a bingo reaction and she was holding the Coast when I left her. In hind sight, maybe it was her “big male” defensiveness that kicked in inadvertently. Maybe I over reacted to what may have been her throwaway comment.

At this point….whatever.

yeah, it was just not your day, even using the force would have failed, beware the woman’s hunting ground… there was your first clue.

edit.. they even put portant man things on shelves to lure us in!!!

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Is there such a thing as being too careful and anticipating the worse? Maybe…but it’s only tiny money to begin with.

People’ve said I carry more “emergency” crap in my car than most cops have. Yeah, sounds about right…

That makes two of us.

ALL my cars…..Always annually check to make sure the emergency kit is intact. Two folding 4” knives. 15’ tow rope. 50 feet of 500 lb rope. Start up cables. 2 flashlights. Two yellow jacket (wife/helper). $100 in $10 bills. Small blanket. In winter, ski mask and gloves.

When I travel, extra phone, extra glasses, heavy blanket, folding shovel and full spare tire. On the road, water.

My car in Europe, same thing.

Stupid? How much is a life worth? Mine or the person I (or you) may save?

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ahh yes the torch coast.. my versions the SH 98 i think it is, but in the 26650 version, that’s if you can find them any more, they look like these but bigger.(theres a Q8 version on 1 AA, and 18650 and a 26650 version, the AA is a pocket version lasting 20 ish minutes with a 50 yard throw on full zoom, the 18650’s an hour at best on full for a 100 yard zoom, but the 26650 out throw’s and outlasts by another hour and has been battered dusted and oiled up well under cars,in bush’s n ditch’s…lol pocket fluffed for 2 years too).

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Lightbringer wrote:
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As far as information, whether it be about flashlights or something else; less is sometimes more. Wink

Like I said…

“This better. Shinier. Light up more.”

Bingo….. Thumbs Up

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Spartan wrote:
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Is there such a thing as being too careful and anticipating the worse? Maybe…but it’s only tiny money to begin with.

People’ve said I carry more “emergency” crap in my car than most cops have. Yeah, sounds about right…

That makes two of us.

ALL my cars…..Always annually check to make sure the emergency kit is intact. Two folding 4” knives. 15’ tow rope. 50 feet of 500 lb rope. Start up cables. 2 flashlights. Two yellow jacket (wife/helper). $100 in $10 bills. Small blanket. In winter, ski mask and gloves.

When I travel, extra phone, extra glasses, heavy blanket, folding shovel and full spare tire. On the road, water.

My car in Europe, same thing.

Stupid? How much is a life worth? Mine or the person I (or you) may save?

I tried helping two American women in the UK once, they were stopped on a three lane main roundabout with a flat tyre, now over here you limp the vehicle off of the roundabout, at worste some one will help push it out of the way, because it’s pritty dangerous sitting there with cars wizzing past at 50mph plus negotiating the roundabout and other audi drivers.

ermm ouch! they were very insistent i go copulate with myself in some other area because i was going to mug them. The look my face must have been priceless!

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yeah, it was just not your day, even using the force would have failed, beware the woman’s hunting ground… there was your first clue.

edit.. they even put portant man things on shelves to lure us in!!!

Helping woman needs caution, helping children needs a truck load of caution.

Country side road and as drove by, there is a woman sitting in her car. Stopped, asked if she needs help, showed her my licence and told her it’s okay to take a picture is she is concerned. She said her car just stopped. was waiting for her father to help her. I said fine and drove away.

Never needed to help a child, but oh man, unless there is imminent danger, I would call 911 and keep 50 feet away. Cell camera running all the way.

It’s sad that in our society, man have now become dangerous if not predatory animals that have to be looked at with caution. heck, there have been instances where the reward of a good deed was a lawsuit.

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carpmon43 wrote:
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Lightbringer wrote:
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Is there such a thing as being too careful and anticipating the worse? Maybe…but it’s only tiny money to begin with.

People’ve said I carry more “emergency” crap in my car than most cops have. Yeah, sounds about right…

That makes two of us.

ALL my cars…..Always annually check to make sure the emergency kit is intact. Two folding 4” knives. 15’ tow rope. 50 feet of 500 lb rope. Start up cables. 2 flashlights. Two yellow jacket (wife/helper). $100 in $10 bills. Small blanket. In winter, ski mask and gloves.

When I travel, extra phone, extra glasses, heavy blanket, folding shovel and full spare tire. On the road, water.

My car in Europe, same thing.

Stupid? How much is a life worth? Mine or the person I (or you) may save?

I tried helping two American women in the UK once, they were stopped on a three lane main roundabout with a flat tyre, now over here you limp the vehicle off of the roundabout, at worste some one will help push it out of the way, because it’s pritty dangerous sitting there with cars wizzing past at 50mph plus negotiating the roundabout and other audi drivers.

ermm ouch! they were very insistent i go copulate with myself in some other area because i was going to mug them. The look my face must have been priceless!

It’s because you people are weird. Learn to drive on the correct side of the road. Sick

EDIT…moved the thread to off topic.

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Country side road and as drove by, there is a woman sitting in her car. Stopped, asked if she needs help, showed her my licence and told her it’s okay to take a picture is she is concerned.

I’m not so sure giving a stranger a photo of your license info is such a good idea… but I guess it’s better than her large male accomplice that jumps out of the bushes when you get out of your car to help, and…. well, you’d better hope he’s afraid of bright lights.

I’d just offer to call a tow truck… if I had a mobile phone, which I don’t. So, I guess I’d just honk and laugh and drive on.

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Here’s exactly what I do. I go to Home Cheapo regularly for work. Every 3 months or so I buy a 3-pack of Defiant flashlights. They’re OK, with an OP reflector that masks the horrendous LED. I swap them out with my go-to emitter, XP-L HI, which seem to work in most everything I can find to put them in. I keep one as a spare EDC because you never know. When I whip out my hot rod S2+ with XHP 50.2 and freak someone out on turbo, that starts the conversation about flashlighs. I then proceed to give the person the Defiant light. No problems teaching them the dangers of Li-Ion, not bright enough to cause eye damage right away, yet bright to impress. And maybe I made the world a slightly better place because of it.

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It’s difficult for us to realize that 99% of the population could give 2 s..t’s about flashlights.

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WalkIntoTheLight wrote:
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Country side road and as drove by, there is a woman sitting in her car. Stopped, asked if she needs help, showed her my licence and told her it’s okay to take a picture is she is concerned.

I’m not so sure giving a stranger a photo of your license info is such a good idea… but I guess it’s better than her large male accomplice that jumps out of the bushes when you get out of your car to help, and…. well, you’d better hope he’s afraid of bright lights.

I’d just offer to call a tow truck… if I had a mobile phone, which I don’t. So, I guess I’d just honk and laugh and drive on.

I’m not sure that some of those tow truck drivers are trustworthy. The instructions to my wife is to keep her phone in her hands, make sure the folding knife blade is full lock and wait for me. If 4 or 5 cars stop, then it’s safe to come out.

When I stopped, she was physically ok and had the same reaction my wife would have and that was fine by me.

BTW…I remember a local accident that I also stopped among several cars. Mainly to put a safety net around his overturned Jeep SUV. I remember him screaming who hit him. Nobody hit him. He went so fast around the corner, he flipped his SUV. This was Canada. In the US, I would have second thoughts mainly because there is a chance the guy comes out with a gun and wants to get even.

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RobertB wrote:
It’s difficult for us to realize that 99% of the population could give 2 s..t’s about flashlights.

I’m a member of both electric and acoustic guitar forums. Same thing there – if it doesn’t say Gibson or Fender or Martin, the general public has absolutely no clue. Which is unfortunate because they buy glorified production line guitars sold as custom shop, when they could have a bespoke guitar made to their very own specs fitted like a suit for the same price or even less, from one person who really cares, not an assembly line of specialists who each have one task, and probably don’t play.

Same thing with CNC. I’m also a CNC Zone member of about 10 years. I see every nrwb go out and buy steppers with the largest torque rating. Which is probably the hugest mistake in the DIY CNC community. But many also see videos on YouTube, think it’s cool, and have absolutely no clue how to use the machine or have no projects to run – that’s the second biggest mistake. I was probably the first DIY CNC guy to successfully mill aluminum at high speed full depth on a home made machine, using a router as a spindle, at a time when everyone was running super slow making dust not chips. I didn’t hide the secrets. In fact, I showed those on the forum how I did it, what speeds and feeds, what tools, what lubricant, how to adjust for machine rigidity… Now everyone and their mother cuts aluminum on Chinese CNC routers.

I’d only joined here recently, but I feel I’ve already amassed a wealth of knowledge. There are so many talented, bright, and helpful people here. I was at another forum but I feel I like the atmosphere here better and am grateful for all those that share their wealth of knowledge. And hopefully I can contribute a small piece someday.

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LouieAtienza wrote:
RobertB wrote:
It’s difficult for us to realize that 99% of the population could give 2 s..t’s about flashlights.

I’m a member of both electric and acoustic guitar forums. Same thing there – if it doesn’t say Gibson or Fender or Martin, the general public has absolutely no clue. Which is unfortunate because they buy glorified production line guitars sold as custom shop, when they could have a bespoke guitar made to their very own specs fitted like a suit for the same price or even less, from one person who really cares, not an assembly line of specialists who each have one task, and probably don’t play.

Same thing with CNC. I’m also a CNC Zone member of about 10 years. I see every nrwb go out and buy steppers with the largest torque rating. Which is probably the hugest mistake in the DIY CNC community. But many also see videos on YouTube, think it’s cool, and have absolutely no clue how to use the machine or have no projects to run – that’s the second biggest mistake. I was probably the first DIY CNC guy to successfully mill aluminum at high speed full depth on a home made machine, using a router as a spindle, at a time when everyone was running super slow making dust not chips. I didn’t hide the secrets. In fact, I showed those on the forum how I did it, what speeds and feeds, what tools, what lubricant, how to adjust for machine rigidity… Now everyone and their mother cuts aluminum on Chinese CNC routers.

I’d only joined here recently, but I feel I’ve already amassed a wealth of knowledge. There are so many talented, bright, and helpful people here. I was at another forum but I feel I like the atmosphere here better and am grateful for all those that share their wealth of knowledge. And hopefully I can contribute a small piece someday.

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Never needed to help a child, but oh man, unless there is imminent danger, I would call 911 and keep 50 feet away. Cell camera running all the way.

It’s sad that in our society, man have now become dangerous if not predatory animals that have to be looked at with caution. heck, there have been instances where the reward of a good deed was a lawsuit.

Absolutely.

Last summer, a little gril from up the block was riding her bike up’n‘down the sidewalk, no helmet, and fell sideways trying to negotiate a 0.1mph U-turn on the driveway between my and my neighbor’s house. Must’ve bonked her head on the sidewalk, as she was bleeding slightly from around her temple where you could see the blood between her wispy blonde hairs.

A few mothers were up the block yakking on the stoop, I waved trying to get their attention, keeping a nice safe distance between me and the kid. Nothing. Again. Nothing. Yet again. Nothing. Had to do one of those 2-finger shriek whistles and then get their attention when they looked. No one moved even though I was waving that “come here!” signal. Gaaaah…

Finally, I cautiously came within 3’ or so of the kid, “You okay?”, then walked her up the block and told the kid’s mum what happened. Facepalm

You feel bad for the kid, want to at least come close and check out her head, maybe even (gasp!) hold her hand while walking her and her bike up the block. Instead, you gotta treat her like she’s got Marburg and you don’t want to get any on you.

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I’m not so sure giving a stranger a photo of your license info is such a good idea… but I guess it’s better than her large male accomplice that jumps out of the bushes when you get out of your car to help, and…. well, you’d better hope he’s afraid of bright lights.

Yep, that Ultratac AAA’s strobe mode will learn him one but good!

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I’d just offer to call a tow truck… if I had a mobile phone, which I don’t. So, I guess I’d just honk and laugh and drive on.

Way back I was getting off a parkway on one of those cloverleaf exits, a woman was on the side, hood up, waiting outside her car.

Well before I had a cellphone (maybe before they even existed), but I did have a ceebee and 108” fiberglass whip antenna. Window down, mike in hand…

“Need a call for help?”

“Hm? Oh, no thanks!”

“No worries… bye!”

and that’s it.

Same like offering someone chocolate, I only ask once.

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Never needed to help a child, but oh man, unless there is imminent danger, I would call 911 and keep 50 feet away. Cell camera running all the way.

It’s sad that in our society, man have now become dangerous if not predatory animals that have to be looked at with caution. heck, there have been instances where the reward of a good deed was a lawsuit.

Absolutely.

Last summer, a little gril from up the block was riding her bike up’n‘down the sidewalk, no helmet, and fell sideways trying to negotiate a 0.1mph U-turn on the driveway between my and my neighbor’s house. Must’ve bonked her head on the sidewalk, as she was bleeding slightly from around her temple where you could see the blood between her wispy blonde hairs.

A few mothers were up the block yakking on the stoop, I waved trying to get their attention, keeping a nice safe distance between me and the kid. Nothing. Again. Nothing. Yet again. Nothing. Had to do one of those 2-finger shriek whistles and then get their attention when they looked. No one moved even though I was waving that “come here!” signal. Gaaaah…

Finally, I cautiously came within 3’ or so of the kid, “You okay?”, then walked her up the block and told the kid’s mum what happened. Facepalm

You feel bad for the kid, want to at least come close and check out her head, maybe even (gasp!) hold her hand while walking her and her bike up the block. Instead, you gotta treat her like she’s got Marburg and you don’t want to get any on you.

Imagine if the kid said…..mommy the man touched me. The kid may be so “fear conditioned” that “touching” is nothing more than lifting her up.

Try sitting there on the mother’s porch trying to describe what “touching” went on. Wait for the cops and…good luck.

We are at the point where one has to weigh the life of the kid versus repercussions. Where that indecision can be a life and death.

I’m not happy with where we have come as a society. The tiny fraction of crazy has triggered overprotective parents into a frenzy of fear. Top it off with media horrid need for sensational headlines and we have reached…..maybe I should walk away….not my problem.

Sad.

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Hence the “nice safe distance” part…

And the last two (multiword) paragraphs sum it up.

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mattadores wrote:

I don’t think she meant to insult you. I feel like her reaction was based on her perception of possibilities:
1- random person takes significant time to provide advice on her purchasing decision (anything longer than someone saying yeah I’d buy that or no that’s crap try Lowes is abnormal)
2- random person happens to have a significant knowledge about flashlights (95% of the world is unaware flashlight enthusiasts exist)
3- random person provided detailed advice on multiple places where she could buy a better alternative product (clearly she’s the type of person who goes to a big box store, buys what she needs and doesn’t investigate her purchases unless it’s something like an appliance, car or house – which is normal for most people)

You may have perceived her comment as negative but to me it seems more like she thought you were so knowledgeable and helpful that you must do that for a living! Big Smile

Keep on making this world a better and brighter Wink place!

  1. Lol @ 95%. The number is well above 99%
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I’d just offer to call a tow truck… if I had a mobile phone, which I don’t. So, I guess I’d just honk and laugh and drive on.

I’m not sure that some of those tow truck drivers are trustworthy. The instructions to my wife is to keep her phone in her hands, make sure the folding knife blade is full lock and wait for me. If 4 or 5 cars stop, then it’s safe to come out.

Okay, if we’re at the point where a good samaritan is at risk of getting knifed for his troubles, I’m not even going to slow down.

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i typed in huge lucid rant on this, and desided nehhh talk about political suicide lol.

the problems obvious, the answers not so obvious, bar a bit of a gandy protest thing… the only thing that made gandi’s stuff work was the no violence.(yu cant give a terorist anything, else they’ll all want one yet a politician throws a tantrum and gets even more)

can you imagine if the whole of washinton just sat there and said no? now we know in china they open fire on their students and holy men, but….can you imagine the cival war that would brake out if they started shooting thousands of peaceful sat down people?

you could make trump pay for the wall? ahh yeah..bankrupt again lol. sorry.(isnt he a lobbyist? like did he even get a vote or is it just a matter a sales and entertainment these days).

what can yu say ?i would buy more than one gun in america…just out of fear.

i’m not against any particular churchs or religion, without it we’d all be happily fighting in small tribes and dying shitty orable deaths.(oh we still do but yeh but no but)
but………………

pay no taxs and bugger yu kids? YOU STILL GIVE THEM MONEY FFS!

draw the line peeps. yu gotta get educated in the feild your sitting in.

edit..if you educated the underprivolidges they’d figure out whats going on? well they sussed any way, even the thickest cotton feild slave had a really good idia what was going on.

and back on track, if you need a semi auto to nip down to wall mart to buy more bullets? isnt there something up? lol. sorry but..yu know.
when you cant throw a dog a bone? ffs…you might get sued? hu?

yeh i’m deluded.

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the american bill of rights, i read it.. fair do’s my interpretasion arnt going to be the same as some one who was born and bread to it but heres how i summerised.

1. its strawberry flavour, with a great advert, you buyy it from me.
2.is chocolate flavour, you buy from him (whome i also own)
3. if you dont like it then lets see who dares say so.
4. fight amongst yourself so ‘we’ can enjoy our wealth at your cost
5. hey be careful out there some starving citizen of a the democracy might pop a cap in your ass.
6. shut up and give me more.
7.shut up or i’ll pop a cap in your ass and give me more
8…yeahhh freedom of speech to say as your told.

UK version.
shut up and work more i need it so i can enjoy laughing at you.(i.e. even the united nations wont help because yu just havent got enough oil sorry..)

can anybody define why you cant even help some one in need yet?

fffffffffff.

edit in, just in case its seen that i’m am just taking the rip or beyond it, ermmm, the bill of rights if adhered to properly (and not perverted) does work.
religion if adhered to correctly…does work..
infact pick any nation of any time, the ethics of the idealisms actually worked for them in their own feild….
the corruption fubared it in every language and every history.

du dahhhh…dont give um the money? and dont sell um guns? ahh poo it’s to late.

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