@Yokiami, you must realise that the SST-20 has a XP-G size die, and the output is similar to a modern XP-G2 too, so it will throw quite well but it has not the output of leds with XM-size dies, like XP-L, SST-40, LH351D and Luxeon V.
True, but t.b.h. i prefer a 219C which is the same size, if i compare the SST20 A6 (A6 driver with 20 AWG) vs a 219c S2+ (stock 2,8A driver).
I dont see why the SST20 is hyped that much.
The 219C does not have the same emitter area as the SST-20. They’re in the same size package (as are the XP-L and the LH351D), but the actual area that emits light differs between these emitters. Smaller tends to be more throwy (candela per lumen) and to produce more absolute throw, but at a cost to output.
In terms of emitter area, LH351D > XP-L > 219C > SST-20.
What makes you say that? In the past, the order in which pm’s were sent directly related to the order of the interest list. Like the GT, Q8, X5 & X6, etc… Maybe you’re right, and it will be a free for all order frenzy this time.
Order codes are received != order shipments are sent
Take the PL47 GB for example:
-Discount codes were sent in order based on interest list
-All emitter/color options were available for purchase right away IIRC
But then there were requests for no glue and magnets and that delayed some orders, I think some colors were shipped out later than others (waiting time estimates was listed on the product page too I believe), it seemed emitter types were sent out in batches, etc.
With the likelihood that not all emitter options will be available off the bat being far down the list certainly doesn’t mean you will necessarily have to wait much longer than others to receive your FW3A once order open up. Depends on whether the lights are built before or after the light is up for purchase and just how many/what versions are produced.
Perhaps it would be a good time now for the “people running the show” to explain how the actual ordering will be handled, including differences in emitters?
I see no reason why the FW3A should be handled any differently than prior BLF projects.
In my opinion, PMs with ordering info certainly should be sent in order on the interest list. Someone who first expressed interest 2 years ago should have priority over someone who first expressed interest a week ago.
As #36 on the list here at BLF, I would agree wholeheartedly with that.
Is it of any consequence that the interest list does not show what emitter we are interested in? I have no recollection what emitter was planned on back in the original post.
I don’t think there’s any hard factors delineating a “BLF” group buy from any others here other than that some BLF members are involved in the process to some extent. You’re making a fair point but most of the logisitics seem to be handled by Neal and Lumintop without much active engagement with BLF (not a bad thing, just how it seems to be going).
I was fairly sure I saw TK or someone else involved say something about how the interest list wasn’t a strict order of who would get their shot at ordering first but I can’t find it so I might just be dumb.
The emitter poll ended up with 5000K XPL HI and 4000K LH351D coming out on top but whether they can get a decent bin of 351Ds is up in the air AFAIK.
I think you are correct RobertB. That being based on past Group Buys with huge interest lists such as the FW3A now has. :+1:
Of course we are all just guessing. Time will tell the true story….