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Ekstasis wrote:
One thought that struck me when looking at the Manker E14 II, The leds are placed a lot more compact, looking at the E07 the emitters are very far a part and a lot of dead space, does this fill any function ? It feels even though it looks good that the head could be more compact, compared to a lot of quad led flashlights they are a lot more compact head. It will be even more important when the Copper version is released cause it will be very front heavy, so it will be better balance if the whole body have somewhat the same size in diameter.

Yeah so yeah E07 could probably had become more compact.


Why do you want a flashlight to be “like” another one ? Do we really need redundancy ?

The E07 could have been a bit more compact but FireFlies modified the initial design to better match our requests for a larger/heavier head for better thermal management. We are not talking about thermal performance with turbo that will saturate with heat a manker e14 and fireflies e07 about equally quickly, but a greater mass with deep fins to raise the bar of the highest sustainable output.

Concerning lumens, there are also people prefering quality over quantity, people who don’t care about lumens race, particularly if they are not needing more than 500 to 800 lumens 95% of the time. Without CCT mixing and/or filtering, there is still no equivalent to the Nichia 219B sw45 tint AND colors rendition. It’s not fanboyism, it’s a matter of compromise and pragmatism. Why would you pick something else when a particular LED is the closest to your sweet spot ?

And why do you need to judge people by your own standards ?
If you consider that the luminous SST-20 4000K is better for you, fine.
If other people consider that the nichia 219b sw 45K is better for them, fine.

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I have also finally received my E07 – gray, xp-l hi v2 3A.
I have a few of the same problems as Lux-Perpetua with my copy.
Unscrewed head. All dirty.

And one more thing

Lux-Perpetua wrote:

and AUX-LEDs run as they should.

Well, I do not think so. Your aux leds inside do not work.
I have the same

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You can barely see the outermost ring of aux LEDs with the optic installed. I’m betting they do work correctly.

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Your aux leds inside do not work.

they will work for sure, but only if voltage of battery is below 3V or so Wink try it out and you will see the “red light of danger” Evil

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Indeed! I didn’t know it’s a battery indicator.
But I noticed that my “HOT” is not in the middle. Perfectionist’s hell. Angry

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djozz wrote:
p=.

Silly

did you also notice your aux led lights in the switch aren’t square to the sides of the light?

lol they’re a lot more square than they are in my PL47 but they definitely ain’t centered

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Tally-ho wrote:
Ekstasis wrote:
One thought that struck me when looking at the Manker E14 II, The leds are placed a lot more compact, looking at the E07 the emitters are very far a part and a lot of dead space, does this fill any function ? It feels even though it looks good that the head could be more compact, compared to a lot of quad led flashlights they are a lot more compact head. It will be even more important when the Copper version is released cause it will be very front heavy, so it will be better balance if the whole body have somewhat the same size in diameter.

Yeah so yeah E07 could probably had become more compact.

We are not talking about thermal performance with turbo that will saturate with heat a manker e14 and fireflies e07 about equally quickly, but a greater mass with deep fins to raise the bar of the highest sustainable output.

Mass is caused largely by that super thick and heavy shelf. Which is worth well under 10% in sustained output. And not because of thickness but because larger head has larger surface. Well, strictly speaking thicker shelf reduces thermal resistance and therefore reduces LED temperature. But that’s well under 1%.

Mass improves turbo time, that’s it.

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That’s how they are supposed to work. Outer and Middle rings light up all the time (depending on Anduril setting).

However, the innermost ring is the low voltage indicator. It is only supposed to light up when voltage is low.

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my attempt to show the LVD LEDs

 

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Agro wrote:
And not because of thickness but because larger head has larger surface.

Thicker shelf avoid bottleneck to the fins that where reworked to increase the surface of exchange with air by convection. With the final prototype, heat has a better thermal path and larger surface for being evacuated = higher sustainable output. Right ?
It was redesigned, not to improve compacity but thermal management, and there isn’t 36 differents ways to achieve it with passive cooling, isn’t it ?

Ekstasis wrote:
Yeah so yeah E07 could probably had become more compact.

I was responding to Ektasis that no, it wasn’t designed and redesigned for maximum compacity. If it has this final shape, it is for better thermal management, or I missed something reading this thread since day1.
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Anyone else here having trouble getting “Add to Cart” button to work on ff-light.com? I tried in 2 different browsers, but it doesn’t function.

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Anyone else here having trouble getting “Add to Cart” button to work on ff-light.com? I tried in 2 different browsers, but it doesn’t function.

With Brave (chrome modification) works perfectly.
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Tally-ho wrote:
Agro wrote:
And not because of thickness but because larger head has larger surface.

Thicker shelf avoid bottleneck to the fins that where reworked to increase the surface of exchange with air by convection.

You don’t need it to be 1 cm thick to not be a bottleneck. 5 mm would be overkill already.

Tally-ho wrote:
With the final prototype, heat has a better thermal path and larger surface for being evacuated = higher sustainable output. Right ?

Wrong and right. Thermal path has little to do with sustained performance. Larger surface is a biggie. What matters is ability to evacuate heat out of the light. So conduction to user hand, convection from the body and radiation from the body.
Strictly speaking better thermal path makes the led run cooler. And cooler means more efficient. And more efficient means better sustained performance. But that’s purely marginal.
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Chatika vas Paus wrote:
Indeed! I didn’t know it’s a battery indicator.
But I noticed that my “HOT” is not in the middle. Perfectionist’s hell. Angry

ah wow.. that would annoy me like hell Facepalm they really need to make sure stuff like this dont go outside their factory…. come on

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Works on Firefox.

Have you check (ALL) check  box options?

Including Accessories? IE: None?

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fluke wrote:

Works on Firefox.


Have you check (ALL) check  box options?


Including Accessories? IE: None?


Thanks. I’ll have to re-check that. You’d think that any required fields would be highlighted if not selected, rather than simply preventing the “Add to Cart” button from functioning.
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pics of the copper is on neals fb page.. looks nice

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Anyone know the N times default config for Floor and Ceiling Cfg? I have changed it and now the Ceil it’s almost the same to the turbo.

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Chatika vas Paus wrote:
Indeed! I didn’t know it’s a battery indicator.
But I noticed that my “HOT” is not in the middle. Perfectionist’s hell. Angry

Black it out with a sharpie so it doesn’t stare you in the face all the time.
You can always wipe off the sharpie later …

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alex64 wrote:
Anyone know the N times default config for Floor and Ceiling Cfg? I have changed it and now the Ceil it’s almost the same to the turbo.

Default ceiling is 120 (click 31 times after prompt). Max ceiling (= turbo) is 150 (1 click after prompt). Not sure what level default floor is set to, but lowest possible setting is 1 click after prompt.

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gpbeiew wrote:
Default ceiling is 120 (click 31 times after prompt). Max ceiling (= turbo) is 150 (1 click after prompt). Not sure what level default floor is set to, but lowest possible setting is 1 click after prompt.

Thank you, I’ll try it.
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gpbeiew wrote:
alex64 wrote:
Anyone know the N times default config for Floor and Ceiling Cfg? I have changed it and now the Ceil it’s almost the same to the turbo.

Default ceiling is 120 (click 31 times after prompt). Max ceiling (= turbo) is 150 (1 click after prompt). Not sure what level default floor is set to, but lowest possible setting is 1 click after prompt.

What’s the recommended “Temperature limit” setting?

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Incognito wrote:
What's the recommended "Temperature limit" setting?

For me 50º. Always with the calibrated sensor.

 

Another question, in Muggle mode at 4 seconds always stepdown to low, is there any chance of changing it?

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Can anyone help with this issue?

I received my Fireflies E07 Friday of last week and it has a strange issue that my Fireflies PL47 has never had:

I will take a video to show you what’s happening but when I ramp up to the top of the ramp (not turbo) the light flickers very heavily and rapidly once it reaches the top of the ramp. This happens if I keep holding the button or if I release the button as soon as it reaches the top of the ramp. The flickering happens most of the time and can last anywhere from 2 – 10 seconds.

It also happens if I save the top of the ramp setting as the memory setting and turn the light off then on again.

Like I said, my PL47 doesn’t have this issue and is totally stable once it reaches the top of the ramp

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hm weird… what battery do u use ?

make sure the head is tight screwed if its a bit loose it could explain the flickering maybe or idk ?

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Get some 80-90% alcohol and clean any copper parts or non anodized metal (driver ring, tail pcb ring, springs, battery tube ends and finally your battery + and – terminal)

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xevious wrote:
fluke wrote:

Works on Firefox.

Have you check (ALL) check  box options?

Including Accessories? IE: None?

Thanks. I'll have to re-check that. You'd think that any required fields would be highlighted if not selected, rather than simply preventing the "Add to Cart" button from functioning.

 

Took me ages to work out i had not checked the No/None accessories.

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I receveid my E07 from fireflies webshop, clear anodize, Nichia 219B
Everything is perfect, it’s now my favorite flashlight.
I already have a ROT66 and PL47, everything buy from fireflies website and with Nichia 219B
Nichia 219B is my all time favorite LED for long exposure photography (light painting), it’s great to have 3 flashlights with the same LEDs

Juls Boo / LIGht HunTer

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Just curious if you compare the 219B tint from this one to your older purchases do they look the same?

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