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Not really. Djozz already answered with most of the reason why, but there’s also something to be said for rose-tinted glasses. If we actually got the requested bins, it would still not be as pink as people like.

I find the regular duv units a bit awkward, since they’re so small… so I generally use mduv instead — thousandths of a duv unit. Anyway, most of the LEDs we use range from about +5 mduv (cyan/green/yellow) to –5 mduv (magenta/pink). In studies though, they found people preferred about –15 mduv (very pink). So they’re actually considering changing the definition of ANSI standard white because its “pure white” line is so far from what people actually prefer.

bringbackmybunny ™
( I want a bunny on the lens too for cool wall shots!)

Kind regards

More than +/- 6 mduv is not ANSI white and some metrics of white light, such as CRI become invalid. Examples of ANSI non-white LEDs seen in the flashlight world include the Nichia 219B sw45k (–7-8 mduv at modest current) and the “90 CRI” XP-G3 Olight used in the S1 Mini (+10 mduv on its lowest mode).

The study is really interesting because it asked people what light looked the most natural, and what they picked is extremely rosy and hypersaturated. I like rosy and saturated, plan to put three sw45ks in one of my FW3As, and light my room with a Viltrox VL200T, but I recognize these light sources differ from unfiltered sunlight.

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Like this:

First of all, a big thanks to all who have been involved — this is a really nice light and I am in for at least one on the group buy. Being a relative newcomer, I am grateful for the opportunity.

That said, I will probably buy one after the group buy as a present for somebody who was born in the year of the rabbit and who would greatly enjoy having the logo, at least if the price delta is not too great (i.e. “the bunny price”). :wink:

Finally, I am somewhat surprised about all the commotion over what I consider minor changes. The essence of this light remains consistent and anyone who has been involved in product development realizes that changes are inevitable. The only way to get exactly what the initial concept proposed is to have a custom build at a much higher price. As soon as a manufacturer gets involved, there must be changes made to fit their process and also to insure adequate sales volume to recover startup costs and ongoing manufacturing.

Please add me in for one extra light… thx

I find all the bickering and “threatening” to not purchase hilarious. It’s got a well-loved open-source firmware, a good range of fully-regulated power, a standardized LED layout and optics, a novel rear e-switch, and it still manages to be basically the second-smallest 18650 light in current production. At $30, I’d buy it if they painted it plaid; we’re lucky it doesn’t cost three times that much.

I’m already down for one, but put me down for a second. I’ll probably buy at least that many. If nothing else, they’ll be fun to tinker with or make good gifts.

Increase my interest level to two lights (up from one) please

Obviously no one is entitled to this light, it’s being designed by volunteers and I appreciate the work they’ve done. I do however see the point that these people are making. This is the looks category of the main post as of right now:

Bearing this in mind, I don’t think it’s that unreasonable for people to be upset and say that they may have lost interest in the light because of this.

I think the dark grey looks lovely. Much better than bare aluminum. :heart_eyes:

I’m in for a Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog logo:)

Literally only one of those things has changed though.

ANYWAAAYY…

Can’t wait for these… Modding them will still be fun ,too, it turns out :slight_smile:

Are we there yet??

I want to buy this flashlight.
Please, add me to the list.
Thank you.

This light is turning 2 next month :smiley:

Still looks like new :slight_smile:

Timeless design!

Two years is hard to believe, and I’ve read all 8350 posts in this thread. I’m not the only one, either. I guess we sure do like our lights.

I’m fearlessly predicting now that this will be done by Christmas. :wink:

Yep, it should be here by Christmas 2020!

Call me what you will but I think I like the revised grey version better than the original…

Should I be interested in the LH351D version at all? What will it do differently than the XP-L? I’m thinking about adding a second one to my request and I’m wondering if I should get one of each.