I’d say the VAST majority of lights I’ve seen anyone own use mechanical switches or buttons, so any ramping that would require an e-switch is out simply because of that.
If we really want to talk about muggle lights a simple 2-mode low/high UI is really the way to go. Anything else is a solution looking for a problem.
This is not standardization, it is uniformization.
What are we going to do with manufacturers and users not following the Great Standardization, send them to reeducation camps ?
And people trying to innovate, will they be considered deviants ?
Please keep in mind that not all people have the same preferences, needs and way of using things.
good one.
little late for april fools day though.
wle
Sorry but it is ignorance to think that what works for you is the best and everybody have to line up.
If it was true, there were no so many UIs.
Some people do need electrical lock and other need strobe. Some need 1 mode and other 5 modes.
Also it is not always possible to use the same UI on different lights with different HW.
You can learn to flash UI and flash all your lights with the same UI that fits best for you.
The lights with mechanical switches should only have 2 modes, hi and low.
But the switch should only switch between 1 mode and off when using it normally.
The 2nd mode can be activated quickly by pushing forward the button like on the Fenix. Then the light remembers the selected mode for normal switching
Why? Can you tell me a single rational reason why someone needs 5 levels when ramping can provide 1000s of levels?
i would like 8 levels
.3 1 3 10 30 100 300 1000
that’s it
no memory
on is one press, off is a long-ish press
with fast switching via short/half - presses
MAYBE the ability to go back one level by a long press or something
after 1000 lumens, back to .3
it’s like ramping but way faster and ignoring level changes that cannot be seen
wle
Just because people think they need something doesn’t mean they do. Most people believe they need a 4K TV or phone but in reality anything over 720p is an overkill. Just wasted energy for no benefit.
Why would you need 1000s of levels when you just need 3. 
Why would you need 820 lumens when 800 makes no differences ?
N.B.: Actually, there is no ramping UI with 1000s of levels.
We cannot agree if we need standard UI or not, do you believe we can agree on 1 standard UI?
Here is one reason: With ramping, you never know exactly at what output level you are, which means you can’t accurately estimate runtime.
I wouldn’t go that way!! I guess that even if ramping can give us those “levels” or more, having preset established levels is a way to be sure of what we will have when we do the next press on the switch! For people that don’t use ramping, that is a major thing. You will have level X and then Y and that’s what you expect (or need)
Also, and again, we will all have different UI preferences. So I believe we won’t need to get too rational or too emotional 
:innocent:
EDIT: There is no “One Ring to Rule them ALL” in what concerns to flashlights! :face_with_monocle:
How do you know that nobody uses it? Just because you don’t, it doesn’t mean nobody does.
I use lock-out on my Nitecore Tip every time I travel with it to prevent accidental turn-on in the bag.
I think you are barking up a wrong tree. The whole beauty of BLF community and the manufacturers that tailor to it is the variety that it offers. We all like different things, and having different UIs and flashlights gives us options.
I have a driver with 3 constant current levels (no PWM) how do you plan to use your standard UI with it?
A control ring (rotary) maybe ?
Ahah, I knew you’d catch this one :smiling_imp:
I guess even with a control ring people would still need/want different things as UI, either it was preset levels, rampings, stepless dimming or anything else
But, for sure, a control ring is a good way to please many people. (While another amount would still dislike )
This is just another “if it’s useless to me, it’s useless for everybody!” thread. Ignore.
And that’s why we can’t have nice things. All right-thinking people agree that long-press for off is of the devil. :smiling_imp:
Why can’t Linux standardize on one desktop, and all programmers settle for one programming language? SMH.
!https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png !:xkcd: Standards
Pretty much, yeah. Get out of your bubbles, kids, the world is far larger than that of your Fakebook circle.
Finding a particular output quickly is a pain. EVERY ramping UI I have used is either too fast to get exactly the ouput I want, or too slow to do so with.
I just want to point out this is absolutely untrue, at the average distance from a monitor or TV, with their average size the human eye can see WAY more detail than is even offerred by 4K. And what about photo/video editing? Surely those professionals have no idea what improves their product.
