Standardized UI for ALL flashlights!

Why? Can you tell me a single rational reason why someone needs 5 levels when ramping can provide 1000s of levels?

i would like 8 levels

.3 1 3 10 30 100 300 1000

that’s it

no memory
on is one press, off is a long-ish press
with fast switching via short/half - presses

MAYBE the ability to go back one level by a long press or something

after 1000 lumens, back to .3

it’s like ramping but way faster and ignoring level changes that cannot be seen

wle

Just because people think they need something doesn’t mean they do. Most people believe they need a 4K TV or phone but in reality anything over 720p is an overkill. Just wasted energy for no benefit.

Why would you need 1000s of levels when you just need 3. :wink:
Why would you need 820 lumens when 800 makes no differences ?
N.B.: Actually, there is no ramping UI with 1000s of levels.

We cannot agree if we need standard UI or not, do you believe we can agree on 1 standard UI?

Here is one reason: With ramping, you never know exactly at what output level you are, which means you can’t accurately estimate runtime.

I wouldn’t go that way!! I guess that even if ramping can give us those “levels” or more, having preset established levels is a way to be sure of what we will have when we do the next press on the switch! For people that don’t use ramping, that is a major thing. You will have level X and then Y and that’s what you expect (or need)

Also, and again, we will all have different UI preferences. So I believe we won’t need to get too rational or too emotional :smiley: :innocent:

EDIT: There is no “One Ring to Rule them ALL” in what concerns to flashlights! :face_with_monocle:

How do you know that nobody uses it? Just because you don’t, it doesn’t mean nobody does.

I use lock-out on my Nitecore Tip every time I travel with it to prevent accidental turn-on in the bag.

I think you are barking up a wrong tree. The whole beauty of BLF community and the manufacturers that tailor to it is the variety that it offers. We all like different things, and having different UIs and flashlights gives us options.

I have a driver with 3 constant current levels (no PWM) how do you plan to use your standard UI with it?

A control ring (rotary) maybe ? :wink:

Ahah, I knew you’d catch this one :smiling_imp:

I guess even with a control ring people would still need/want different things as UI, either it was preset levels, rampings, stepless dimming or anything else :smiley:
But, for sure, a control ring is a good way to please many people. (While another amount would still dislike :smiley: )
:beer:

This is just another “if it’s useless to me, it’s useless for everybody!” thread. Ignore.

And that’s why we can’t have nice things. All right-thinking people agree that long-press for off is of the devil. :smiling_imp:

Why can’t Linux standardize on one desktop, and all programmers settle for one programming language? SMH.

!https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png !:xkcd: Standards

Pretty much, yeah. Get out of your bubbles, kids, the world is far larger than that of your Fakebook circle.

Finding a particular output quickly is a pain. EVERY ramping UI I have used is either too fast to get exactly the ouput I want, or too slow to do so with.

I just want to point out this is absolutely untrue, at the average distance from a monitor or TV, with their average size the human eye can see WAY more detail than is even offerred by 4K. And what about photo/video editing? Surely those professionals have no idea what improves their product.

That is a impossible to answer. What is rational to you may not be to me and vise versa. Sounds like you want to make a UI that you like and then everyone who doesn’t will just have to live with it. Then when you make changes to it we will have to adjust to that as well.

Sounds exactly what we already have.

Grab a driver. Program it to your liking and be happy. A standardized UI probably goes against what most flashlight enthusiast want. We like to modify and make things our own. To have one standard UI would be a insult to those of us who appreciate lights for what they are.

Don’t be upset that lights don’t have exactly the UI you want. Find a way to make it yours. Get dirty, do some research, make it yours. Just don’t try to make it ours.

How to program a driver?
And why do I need to get a driver?
Can’t original drivers be reprogrammed?

Multiple UIs are a serious safety issue. Currently i have 4 recent lights with 4 different UIs and two more from from legacy lights. To my wife and any muggle, in a life and death situation, it may very well be death.

That is why i am collecting what i like, but plan to buy a larger EDC and then make it standard in all the cars and house. About 6 lights.

Currently, I’m buying the SP33 which may be it or the Convoy S2.

My better half will then get the same training she got for using firearms. Blindfolded, rinse and repeat. Muscle memory.

Maybe it sounds funny to some, but to me, it borders on lunacy to have an emergency tool that one needs to “figure out”.

EDIT…we’re talking about it and her go-to is the Coast SP14. Back button, click on or off. Zero choices. Zero confusion. Zero panic.

Good thing most lights with complicated UIs aren’t sold specifically as “emergency tools”. That’s what the single mode P60s, Pelicans, etc. are for.

For emergency, it’s best to just get some single mode lights or ones that can be programmed to function as such. The simpler the better. Fancy UIs have their place, but not in this case.