Do we ever get output bins from manufacturers?, and if we do get them are they correct, and are we able to check them?
That’s all information I have received from Sofirn, so far. I asked them if their numbers may be worth being updated since JasonWW got much better results with those 26650 batteries Sofirn has apparently provided for testing the SP70 prototype. But they didn’t want the numbers in the ANSI chart to be changed. I don’t remember the exact post here on BLF but I was told the numbers in the manual result from testing with 18650 batteries. Eventually, we need to wait and see what actual numbers people will measure once they get their SP70s.
Sometimes. We sure got it on the Q8, after great insistence of course. Just wish'n, just say'n. If we know, that's good, if we don't, that's typical.
I'm mostly worried about their driver. I can't remember where/which lights, but I seem to recall some of Sofirn's drivers being subpar on efficiency and/or standby drain. I guess standby drain isn't as big an issue on a light with a rear lockout switch. I just hope it's not a light where I feel like I want to mod the driver first thing, because then I start wondering why I didn't build another L6.
We don’t know the exact bin.
I haven’t been able to test anything because I don’t have the light. Sofirn has tested a variety of batteries, though. I believe their 5500 lumen rating is using their low drain 26650 batteries. I’m guessing they need to sell more of their low drain cells. When they tested using their 21700 and HD 26650 they got the higher lumen numbers.
I think its a safety issue for non flashlight people and Sofirn are concerned? Using high drain cells is probably not recommended for every one. Lots of 26650s are not suitable to be used in series where as most brand name 18650s will have no issues.
Check out HKJs charts and heaps of pair of 26650 don’t match which can be an issue. At what point does it become an issue? Well for some novice that may only charge cells when they are flat its a bit of a worry where as we probably charge our cells more often.
The S70S had a really high drain of 4.43 milliamps. I don’t think the mcu went to sleep. Plus the green led was an inefficient one that needed more current than some other green leds.
That was a linear driver of some kind. On their C8F, which is a FET driver, they got the drain down to 77 microamps. Much, much better, but it’s not using a constant on led like the SP70. So I hope the SP70 drain is under 400 microamps. Under 200 would be even better. I’m not too worried about it though. For storage I would cut the main power.
There is review in youtube.
This was posted and talked about a couple pages back.
Thanks for the video Tangra, I guess I missed it when it was posted before. 
It’s sweeps week…
I just sweeps once a month……
OMG! I was supposed to SWEEP? 
I thought she said sleep…
Is there going to be an SMO reflector available for this light in the near future?
They may use a SMO for a special edition SP70 with other tweaks, but I don’t know if it will be available separately.
So the SP70 performance is very similar to a Q8 ? you must really like the form factor then to want one (or be prepared to go through the trouble of slice/dice the led).
I’m not sure who your talking to.
I definitely prefer the form factor. I can slip it in my back pocket. I also prefer the dome on.
My Sofirn Q8 gets no use. It’s just too bulky. The beam is a bit too narrow, as well.
Everyone has their own preferences and needs which is why there are so many flashlight models on the market. Something for everyone. :+1:
Yea i prefer this style over the Q8 feels more ergonomic to me. I think we will see more throw than the Q8 maybe double once we test it. Plus out of the box the SP70 can hit 7000+ lumens without any further mods fair bit brighter than a stock Q8.
As I noticed before, many people like the classic flashlight shape for various reasons. My remark is because the SP70 is considerably bigger than a Q8 while the performance increase is less than the size increase, and the battery capacity is less too.
But you are right that with both lights stock, the SP70 likely has 1.4 times more output, and I guess from the head size and better finning that the maximum sustainable output is a bit higher too. This all counts for something.
Still, I suspect that a preference for the form factor has a lot to do with wanting the SP70.